Online Ammo Sale Restrictions

yellowsled · Jul 31, 2012

Purchasing surplus ammo is going to be a nightmare! There maybe is only one or two places in MD that carries the stuff. I cant go to Walmart to get a crate of mosin ammo. Now that I think about it, Walmart will not be selling ammo anymore either unless the store has a FFL. Westminster does not. FUDGEEEEEE

yellowfin · Jul 31, 2012

Tankfixr said:
They're fools. Let them grandstand gun and ammo control right before the elections. It worked wonderfully for Al Gore.

Keep your fingers crossed that history repeats itself.

See you at the polls.

It bothers me that somehow they're confident despite knowing that.

tball · Jul 31, 2012

Is it any surprise that the politician sponsoring this is from a state that doesn't trust it's citizens to pump their own gas.

oom · Jul 31, 2012

Semper said:
[*]It requires licensed ammunition dealers to report the sale of more than 1,000 rounds of ammunition to an unlicensed person within any five consecutive business days.
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What the hell?

And suddenly every one starts buying ammo in multiple orders of 980...

AliasNeo07 · Jul 31, 2012

Boom Boom said:
Regardless, any such bill would be DOA in the House.

And the Senate.

Inigoes said:
It's already law to prove you are 18 or older for rifle ammo, and 21 or older for handgun ammo.

Some online vendors have asked for ID (scanned and emailed), to stay within the existing law.

you don't have to prove you're 18 or older for rifle and 21 or older for handgun ammo online I don't believe. I never have had to, I've just had to click a box saying that I was. Only place I have had to is AIM, where I needed to scan a pic of my drivers license.

Regardless this bill is bullshi* and will not reduce crime or mass shootings or anything. Only hurt small business owners.

niftyvt · Aug 1, 2012

oom said:
And suddenly every one starts buying ammo in multiple orders of 980...

There would also be a check box to 'split an order,' if you order more than 1 case of 980 or 950 or whatever box count they come in, check the box (could be automatic as well) and the online seller would just split the transaction up for you and ship and charge it separately. That regulation would be so easy to get a round it cracks me up! Just like the MD 30 round mag regulation.

rwatson · Aug 1, 2012

Thats a crock of sh*t. I hope this does not pass.

smores · Aug 1, 2012

Guess I'll be buying my ammo 999 rounds at a time.

Lou45 · Aug 1, 2012

Semper Noctem said:
The new legislation, dubbed the Stop Online Ammunition Sales Act, rests on four pillars, according to Lautenberg's office:

It requires anyone selling ammunition to be a licensed dealer.

It requires ammunition buyers who are not licensed dealers to present photo identification at the time of purchase, effectively banning the online or mail order purchase of ammo by regular civilians.

It requires licensed ammunition dealers to maintain records of the sale of ammunition.

It requires licensed ammunition dealers to report the sale of more than 1,000 rounds of ammunition to an unlicensed person within any five consecutive business days.

What the hell?

Apparent there are alot of members on this forum that don't remember or are too young to have been around purchasing ammo commencing the '68 GCA to the mid-late eighties. It was Federal Law for a Licensed Firearms Dealer to comply with the first three of the four aforementioned [*]'s. Yes, we had to maintain a Bound Book for ammo dispositions. The information we had to enter for each transaction was;
1. Purchaser's name
2. Purchaser's address
3. IIRC date of birth
all of which were from purchaser's driver's license
4. What type(s) of ammo, caliber, and quantity of each
this was all done strictly on a face-to-face transaction, no such thing as mail order.

Yep, that's how it was back then and it could be resurrected once again. Gotta' admit though, the timing is not right for the flaming assed D's to pursue it now before the election.

mayor_quimby · Aug 2, 2012

So a brick and mortar store wants to ban online ammunition purchasing! Shocking!!!!!

http://www.ktrh.com/player/?mid=22310941

So his logic is to give in to make the democrats happy!!!!!!!

Threeband · Aug 2, 2012

Those people have no clue how many normal law abiding people buy ammo by the case. They simply have no clue about what they're trying to regulate.

If a tennis player needed a new replacement ball for every single swing of the racket, that is, if tennis balls couldn't be used twice, then they would buy their balls by the thousand. A serious tennis player would probably use a thousand a month.

The real irony is, the thugs and criminals will try to buy one cartridge at a time.

AliasNeo07 · Aug 3, 2012

Lou45 said:
Apparent there are alot of members on this forum that don't remember or are too young to have been around purchasing ammo commencing the '68 GCA to the mid-late eighties. It was Federal Law for a Licensed Firearms Dealer to comply with the first three of the four aforementioned [*]'s. Yes, we had to maintain a Bound Book for ammo dispositions. The information we had to enter for each transaction was;
1. Purchaser's name
2. Purchaser's address
3. IIRC date of birth
all of which were from purchaser's driver's license
4. What type(s) of ammo, caliber, and quantity of each
this was all done strictly on a face-to-face transaction, no such thing as mail order.

Yep, that's how it was back then and it could be resurrected once again. Gotta' admit though, the timing is not right for the flaming assed D's to pursue it now before the election.

Did not know that. But then again, I am 24.

Scary, though.

However, I don't think this will pass, even in the Senate. I bet at least 10 dems go with the repubs.

Mark75H · Aug 3, 2012

Lou45 said:
Apparent there are alot of members on this forum that don't remember or are too young to have been around purchasing ammo commencing the '68 GCA to the mid-late eighties. It was Federal Law for a Licensed Firearms Dealer to comply with the first three of the four aforementioned [*]'s. Yes, we had to maintain a Bound Book for ammo dispositions. The information we had to enter for each transaction was;
1. Purchaser's name
2. Purchaser's address
3. IIRC date of birth
all of which were from purchaser's driver's license
4. What type(s) of ammo, caliber, and quantity of each
this was all done strictly on a face-to-face transaction, no such thing as mail order.

Yep, that's how it was back then and it could be resurrected once again. Gotta' admit though, the timing is not right for the flaming assed D's to pursue it now before the election.

I bought my first gun right after that and started buying ammo by mail order and most of the time have bought that way ever since ... I didn't know it just changed in the '80's. I bet before '68 you could buy ammo out of the Sears catalog

Lou45 · Aug 3, 2012

Mark75H said:
I bought my first gun right after that and started buying ammo by mail order and most of the time have bought that way ever since ... I didn't know it just changed in the '80's. I bet before '68 you could buy ammo out of the Sears catalog................

...........and the guns, too.

Boom Boom · Aug 3, 2012

In the '50s, my father and his classmates used to take their rifles to school for show and tell, both on the school bus and by walking to school. This was in a semi-urban area, too, not out in the sticks. Compare that to where we are now. It's a sad state of affairs today. Every action is being criminalized.

Machodoc · Aug 3, 2012

oldman12 said:
I guess there not going to let a tragedy go to waste. Filthy bastages

The idea of never letting a tragedy go unexploited is nothing new to politics and public policy development. Ironically, the term used by policy developers to describe an event that opens a window of opportunity for pushing through desired legislation is called a "triggering event".

Machodoc · Aug 3, 2012

Boom Boom said:
In the '50s, my father and his classmates used to take their rifles to school for show and tell, both on the school bus and by walking to school. This was in a semi-urban area, too, not out in the sticks. Compare that to where we are now. It's a sad state of affairs today. Every action is being criminalized.

In my senior year of high school I did a history report that traced key events in American wars by showing some of the firearms that were used. I walked into school with my arms loaded with gun cases like they were firewood, and the only comments I got about it were offers from the history teacher and vice-principal to buy some of my rifles if I ever got short on cash. That was in the mid-60s.

Lou45 · Aug 3, 2012

Machodoc said:
In my senior year of high school I did a history report that traced key events in American wars by showing some of the firearms that were used. I walked into school with my arms loaded with gun cases like they were firewood, and the only comments I got about it were offers from the history teacher and vice-principal to buy some of my rifles if I ever got short on cash. That was in the mid-60s.

We used to shoot .22lr rifles in the basement of our elementary school after school dismissal every week.

Lawman1800 · Aug 3, 2012

BenL said:
Why is it always the same trolls- democrats from NJ and NY? Can't we just push NJ into the ocean; kind of like a big dirt garbage barge?

Machodoc · Aug 4, 2012

BenL said:
Why is it always the same trolls- democrats from NJ and NY? Can't we just push NJ into the ocean; kind of like a big dirt garbage barge?

Because it would just wash up on the beach at Ocean City.

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