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Machodoc · Feb 9, 2015

Abulg1972 said:
I'm sure you know this, but you have to use that made-up S/N when you log it into your book.

Yepper! I enter that as the serial number, then add the other one in parenthesis below it.

Abulg1972 · Feb 9, 2015

Machodoc said:
Yepper! I enter that as the serial number, then add the other one in parenthesis below it.

I do the exact same thing.

Threeband · Feb 9, 2015

That made up number will only lead to confusion over the years.

I'll bet 2/3s of attempts to run the numbers will involve someone entering the wrong number. Sheer bureaucratic stupidity.

yellowsled · Feb 11, 2015

i always use the original SN on my books. fwiw

JamesH · Feb 12, 2015

yellowsled said:
i always use the original SN on my books. fwiw

I'm at least 3% sure you're supposed to use the importer's serial number, if there is one.

somd_mustangs · Feb 12, 2015

JamesH said:
I'm at least 3% sure you're supposed to use the importer's serial number, if there is one.

yes, you are... that's how it was recorded by the importer.

Machodoc · Feb 12, 2015

JamesH said:
I'm at least 3% sure you're supposed to use the importer's serial number, if there is one.

somd_mustangs said:
yes, you are... that's how it was recorded by the importer.

Yep ... if you look at the receipt for a gun like that (if you bought it from the importer or a larger retailer), you'll see that the serial number listed on it is the one that the importer added. I don't think there's anything wrong with also logging the original serial number, but the BATFE is going to consider whatever the importer logged as the official number.

Abulg1972 · Feb 12, 2015

Machodoc said:
Yep ... if you look at the receipt for a gun like that (if you bought it from the importer or a larger retailer), you'll see that the serial number listed on it is the one that the importer added. I don't think there's anything wrong with also logging the original serial number, but the BATFE is going to consider whatever the importer logged as the official number.

Here's a twist to this issue. I recently received a non-import marked Berthier M16, which has the serial number on the barrel under the hand guard. The seller's invoice references the rifle using the S/N that appears on the bolt, which is not the actual S/N. I chose to log it using the actual S/N and not the number that appears on the seller's invoice. Is that correct/safe?

Boom Boom · Feb 12, 2015

You can also record both numbers, and the manufacturer. I always do. Put them in parenthesis after the importer name and SN. Why? Most importer info can be easily scrubbed and retouched. It's much more difficult for a thief to scrub the original numbers, which tend to be deeply stamped in multiple places. On a side note, some clowns, even locally, make a habit of scrubbing importer info and reselling as "no import marks" for $$$ to unsuspecting dupes.

Boom Boom · Feb 12, 2015

Abulg1972 said:
Here's a twist to this issue. I recently received a non-import marked Berthier M16, which has the serial number on the barrel under the hand guard. The seller's invoice references the rifle using the S/N that appears on the bolt, which is not the actual S/N. I chose to log it using the actual S/N and not the number that appears on the seller's invoice. Is that correct/safe?

Common issue since Berthiers are often mismatched. You logged it as I would. ATF is almost certain to side with you if an audit ever happens.

Abulg1972 · Feb 12, 2015

Boom Boom said:
Common issue since Berthiers are often mismatched.

Well, mine is no exception! :lol:

Oldcarjunkie · Feb 12, 2015

Just got this measly thing, Luckily my buddy Gumby was here to check it out.

BinaryBoris · Feb 12, 2015

You win 3 Internets for that last picture!

protegeV · Feb 12, 2015

BinaryBoris said:
You win 3 Internets for that last picture!

C'mon that's worth at least 100internets :lol2:

Oldcarjunkie · Feb 12, 2015

protegeV said:
C'mon that's worth at least 100internets

I know right!

Melnic · Feb 12, 2015

That photo needs a bubble caption I"m Gumby Dammit!

That's one fine SKS

Oldcarjunkie · Feb 12, 2015

Melnic said:
That photo needs a bubble caption I"m Gumby Dammit!

That's one fine SKS

No way, the kid is not allowed to say that :lol2:

Thats about the hardest Russian to come by, the 53 and 54 Izhevsk rifles are the most collectible Russian SKS rifles . the 1949 tula is also a hard one. I have sold pretty much all my normal Russians and now have both 1953 and 1954 Izhevsk. Here is the 54

toolness1 · Feb 13, 2015

Gumby is awesome, but he has poor trigger discipline

toolness1 · Feb 13, 2015

Crappy picture, but got these guys last week from a friend. Luckily he sold me one of his Czechpoint unissued Vz. 52's since I didn't pull the trigger while they had them in stock. The other is from a different importer, but looks just as nice as the unissued one. Neither have a refurb mark.

toolness1 · Feb 13, 2015

My buddy just got these in, thought I would share

Beretta 92S, excellent with handpick from SOG
Beretta 51 from Cdisales on GB

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