AK reliability in question

SlowShooter · Nov 24, 2015

Yes I am talking about the AK.

Last week, I saw a footage on the news about the Paris terror attacks. An AK failed to open fire. This was a good thing, otherwise a lot more Parisien may have been killed. This also demonstrated that the rifle may not be that great as people here may have thought. I use to have an AK and it busts 2 or more rounds every time I pull the trigger.

What is your opinions?

Dave Greenberg · Nov 24, 2015

SlowShooter said:
Yes I am talking about the AK.

Last week, I saw a footage on the news about the Paris terror attacks. An AK failed to open fire. This was a good thing, otherwise a lot more Parisien may have been killed. This also demonstrated that the rifle may not be that great as people here may have thought. I use to have an AK and it double tap or triple tap every time I pull the trigger.

What is your opinions?

Well no firearm is perfect and all are capable of jamming/malfunctioning. It could have been user error or any number of things. The myths surrounding it are exaggerated just like the myths surrounding all glocks. Proper maintenance and upkeep are key to the life and dependability of any firearm. Thankfully this happened and saved lives.

SlowShooter · Nov 24, 2015

...And on the train that headed to Paris more than a month ago, it was jammed.

outrider58 · Nov 24, 2015

User errors.

SlowShooter · Nov 24, 2015

outrider58 said:
User errors.

I thought AKs are dummy proof and built for idiots.

DutchV · Nov 24, 2015

There's some pretty old AK's over there. Just because something lasts a long time doesn't mean that it doesn't have a service life. That goes for Glocks, too.

One of the terrorists in the Garland TX attack was apparently using a Sub2K with no front sight. So not all of these guys are well-trained. Some of them, like the Libyans, probably think that "Allah will guide the bullets".

aquaman · Nov 24, 2015

SlowShooter said:
I thought AKs are dummy proof and built for idiots.

They are not built for idiots. They are not built in caves. They are brilliantly simple.

Anything mechanical can and will fail. In this particular case I think the rifle was a deact that was converted to fire again. Its likely they screwed up the FCG.

Name Taken · Nov 24, 2015

This clearly means every AK is garbage and countries around the world have been dubbed into using a crappy firearm for 50 years.

Pinecone · Nov 24, 2015

Easy to get does not equal good.

jakbob · Nov 24, 2015

Any weapon can jam. All it proves is that the most common malfunction is user error.

Z_Man · Nov 24, 2015

first question to ask is was the ammo even live?

outrider58 · Nov 24, 2015

SlowShooter said:
I thought AKs are dummy proof and built for idiots.

Not savage proof, though.

alucard0822 · Nov 24, 2015

Between no bolt hold-open, rock-and-lock mags and the reciprocating charging handle hitting something, I've seen a few claim their AK "jammed" through user error. Add in out of spec builds, damage from smuggling, terrorist training based on expendible soldiers, and rifles that have been beaten up in war, and there is a good chance of problems.

SlowShooter · Nov 24, 2015

aquaman said:
They are not built for idiots. They are not built in caves. They are brilliantly simple.

Anything mechanical can and will fail. In this particular case I think the rifle was a deact that was converted to fire again. Its likely they screwed up the FCG.

In combat nobody deact. The rifle will be ready to fire until all ammo are gone. You think you can do better in kill?

Name Taken said:
This clearly means every AK is garbage and countries around the world have been dubbed into using a crappy firearm for 50 years.

They just don't have $ to buy a decent assault rifle.

Z_Man said:
first question to ask is was the ammo even live?

They use the same wolf ammo as you and I do.

outrider58 said:
Not savage proof, though.

Honestly, this is what AK lover mumbling about all the time.

alucard0822 said:
Between no bolt hold-open, rock-and-lock mags and the reciprocating charging handle hitting something, I've seen a few claim their AK "jammed" through user error. Add in out of spec builds, damage from smuggling, terrorist training based on expendible soldiers, and rifles that have been beaten up in war, and there is a good chance of problems.

The rifles I brought up never went to wars. They are bought in Europe, provided and used there.

jakbob · Nov 24, 2015

SlowShooter said:
In combat nobody deact. The rifle will be ready to fire until all ammo are gone. You think you can do better in kill?

I have no idea what you are saying. If you are saying that no one deactivated the rifle in combat, I do not think you understand what aquaman is saying.

SlowShooter said:
They use the same wolf ammo as you and I do.

where did you get this info? I'm curious.

Please use multiquote... please.

SlowShooter · Nov 24, 2015

jakbob said:
I have no idea what you are saying. If you are saying that no one deactivated the rifle in combat, I do not think you understand what aquaman is saying.

where did you get this info? I'm curious.

Please use multiquote... please.

I believe that he try to say the combatant put the gun on safety. For the ammo, beside Wolf what else can you buy in Brussell?

Erno86 · Nov 24, 2015

SlowShooter said:
Yes I am talking about the AK.

Last week, I saw a footage on the news about the Paris terror attacks. An AK failed to open fire. This was a good thing, otherwise a lot more Parisien may have been killed. This also demonstrated that the rifle may not be that great as people here may have thought. I use to have an AK and it double tap or triple tap every time I pull the trigger.

What is your opinions?

I don't believe that the Daesh's AK had a failure {due to malfunction} to fire outside that Paris restaurant {although it could have happened}. He possibly ran out of ammo, or decided not to shoot them --- Though I've jammed two of my AK's twice, by pulling the charging handle half-assed back, too see if I had a live round in the chamber --- Instead of ejecting the live round out of the ejection port, the live round ejected into the lower half of the receiver and lodged in the trigger group; thusly jamming the trigger --- Field stripping is the only remedy, for that type of jam.

My AK's are outfitted with the Tapco trigger group...that does have a tendency to bumpfire, unless the trigger is pressed all the way back, as opposed to leaving my trigger finger resting on the trigger; just after the sear breaks.

wilcam47 · Nov 24, 2015

Depends on where the AK is made...if its a cheaper knockoff version I can see it having problems. Any gun not cleaned or taken care of will have problems even the AK. Ammo not taken care of is just as bad a problem as a neglected rifle.

outrider58 · Nov 24, 2015

And it could have been 'beater' AKs. Beggars can't be choosers in France as far as assault rifles go. Mix-matched parts smuggled in. Who knows? Could be anything.

clandestine · Nov 24, 2015

SlowShooter said:
I thought AKs are dummy proof and built for idiots.

No, they are not. Its just stupid tales that get retold. AKs break and jam too.

I saw just as many busted AKs as a Gunsmith as I did ARs.

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