PSA and shipping to Montgomery County

gungate · Jun 11, 2015

I did a search and just found very old threads with little information.

I just ordered ammo from PSA and they sent an email saying they don't ship to Montgomery County or Annapolis. The general consensus that I did find was there was a law that they were following that was struck down years ago.

So is there any reason now why they cannot ship? Is there anything I can point them to that might change their mind? Meanwhile I gave them a VA address to use.

Robert1955 · Jun 11, 2015

State law Preempts those old county/city codes. The old thread you mentioned should have a link for you.

swinokur · Jun 11, 2015

http://www.leagle.com/decision/1985842302Md540_1795.xml/MONTGOMERY%20COUNTY%20v.%20ATLANTIC%20GUNS,%20INC.

old law found to be illegal. MD Court of Appeals

The State Act regulates both loaded and unloaded handguns, and expressly preempts all local laws regulating the same subject. Bill No. 17-82 restricts the wearing, carrying, or transporting of loaded handguns. It is therefore invalid. JUDGMENT OF THE CIRCUIT COURT FOR MONTGOMERY COUNTY AFFIRMED. PETITIONERS TO PAY COSTS.

Bob A · Jun 11, 2015

Doesn't matter that it's legally OK.

I sent info to PSA from NRA-ILA regarding this, and numerous emails, including one to the CEO. They're not going to ship to MoCo.

Even though they used to.

Very annoying. I see little point in buying anything from them, any more.

trailman · Jun 12, 2015

I only buy from PSA when the deals are too good now. I used to buy a lot from them in the past including rifle parts. Their shipping takes too damn long now.

I'd keep a lookout on Ammo Seek for SGammo. If its listed its in stock and out the door plus their shipping is fixed so you can do the mental math, usually its like $12 for a 500 case of 5.56 and $16 for a full 1000.

Not affiliated just a happy customer.

swinokur · Jun 13, 2015

Bob A said:
Doesn't matter that it's legally OK.

I sent info to PSA from NRA-ILA regarding this, and numerous emails, including one to the CEO. They're not going to ship to MoCo.

Even though they used to.

Very annoying. I see little point in buying anything from them, any more.

I provided the cite in case the OP wants to pursue the issue with PSA. I agree it's far easier to do business with a company that isn't too lazy to know the law.

PSA is off my list of vendors to do business with.

gungate · Jul 7, 2015

swinokur said:
I provided the cite in case the OP wants to pursue the issue with PSA. I agree it's far easier to do business with a company that isn't too lazy to know the law.

PSA is off my list of vendors to do business with.

I did pursue this with them and sent them the links and cites but they still refused. They cancelled that order and wouldn't redirect to my out of state address either but said I could order again and put an out of state address.

Sounds like a hard rule put in place by one of their higher-ups and is not up for debate. Oh well.

outrider58 · Jul 7, 2015

I've read a lot of posts complaining about PSA here yet, a lot of Md'rs still order from them. I'm scratching my head. I have no need to visit their site. I prefer to shop elsewhere. Am I being stupid?

babalou · Jul 7, 2015

nah

outrider58 said:
I've read a lot of posts complaining about PSA here yet, a lot of Md'rs still order from them. I'm scratching my head. I have no need to visit their site. I prefer to shop elsewhere. Am I being stupid?

Nope. You just want to get your schnit and get out without delay.

outrider58 · Jul 7, 2015

babalou said:
Nope. You just want to get your schnit and get out without delay.

Thanks for beating everyone else to the draw! :lol2:

Klunatic · Jul 7, 2015

Screw PSA, they don't care to learn our laws when its spoon fed to them. I stopped doing business with them when they screwed me on a pre 10/13 lower. Plenty of other places to buy guns and ammo that won't screw you because their lazy.

callidus · Jul 26, 2015

I guess I see both sides here. PSA is a business, but in the case of firearms/ammo businesses are forced to know the law in every locality/jurisdiction/nook and cranny. I'm sure its maddening and also potentially costly with attorney fees when they go wrong (what I'm guessing they're afraid of in this case).

On the other hand I've never had a problem with them (AA Co) - but if I did I'd happily shop elsewhere. Lots of other places with good deals as well. If they don't keep up with laws as well as they should, somebody else will, and take the business. That's the beauty of capitalism

Skins_Brew · Jul 26, 2015

I ordered 1k rounds of 5.56 from them a few years ago. It even said at checkout they will not send to MoCo. I ordered anyway, and they sent it to MoCo.

pilotguy299 · Jul 26, 2015

gungate said:
I did a search and just found very old threads with little information.

I just ordered ammo from PSA and they sent an email saying they don't ship to Montgomery County or Annapolis. The general consensus that I did find was there was a law that they were following that was struck down years ago.

So is there any reason now why they cannot ship? Is there anything I can point them to that might change their mind? Meanwhile I gave them a VA address to use.

I can see PSA's point, even if it makes things harder for us. They don't want to get sucked in to a legal action, and the easiest way to avoid an issue is to just not have to deal with it.

If the ammo gets shipped UPS, why not just have them ship it to the UPS store in Mt Airy?

http://mountairy-md-5907.theupsstorelocal.com/

It is in Carroll County right near WalMart, and a much shorter drive than VA.

If you have a My-UPS account, you can have the shipment diverted to the store, where you can pick it up.

Bob A · Jul 26, 2015

pilotguy299 said:
I can see PSA's point, even if it makes things harder for us. They don't want to get sucked in to a legal action, and the easiest way to avoid an issue is to just not have to deal with it.

If the ammo gets shipped UPS, why not just have them ship it to the UPS store in Mt Airy?

http://mountairy-md-5907.theupsstorelocal.com/

It is in Carroll County right near WalMart, and a much shorter drive than VA.

If you have a My-UPS account, you can have the shipment diverted to the store, where you can pick it up.

They won't bother to do this, because your billing address is in MoCo. You're missing the point - they cannot get sucked into a legal action, because the law they're obeying no longer exists.

The easiest way to avoid the issue is to not have to deal with PSA.

pilotguy299 · Jul 26, 2015

Bob A said:
They won't bother to do this, because your billing address is in MoCo. You're missing the point - they cannot get sucked into a legal action, because the law they're obeying no longer exists.

The easiest way to avoid the issue is to not have to deal with PSA.

My billing address is not in MoCo.

And the OP posted:

They cancelled that order and wouldn't redirect to my out of state address either but said I could order again and put an out of state address.

Which i gather means that the billing address didn't matter to PSA as much as the shipping address did.

Bob A · Jul 26, 2015

pilotguy299 said:
My billing address is not in MoCo.

And the OP posted:

They cancelled that order and wouldn't redirect to my out of state address either but said I could order again and put an out of state address.

Which i gather means that the billing address didn't matter to PSA as much as the shipping address did.

Well, good luck then.

I still think the final solution is to buy elsewhere.

zoopal · Jul 27, 2015

I ordered an upper from PSA. Got it a week later.

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