MSP being ridiculous about my CCW app.

montoya32 · Feb 25, 2015

Long and short for those who haven't seen my other posts, I am self-employed(Realtor). They want the brokerage whom I am affiliated with to write a letter that states they "want" me to be armed while working and affiliated with this broker. The brokerage will not permit my manager to sign such a letter and I completely understand why. I am furious as I meet all of the "G&S" reasons and my interviewing trooper said I looked like a standard case for them.

IT'S ON!

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teratos · Feb 25, 2015

Absurd. You are self-employed.

You might want to consider changing your Avatar. The Hogan administration may not appreciate the skull when you are asking for a permit. Just from a PR perspective.....

J-Dog · Feb 25, 2015

teratos said:
Absurd. You are self-employed.

You might want to consider changing your Avatar. The Hogan administration may not appreciate the skull when you are asking for a permit. Just from a PR perspective.....

Yes, particularly since it's the same skull logo used by The Punisher, who's whole deal is that he takes the law into his own hands.

montoya32 · Feb 25, 2015

J-Dog said:
Yes, particularly since it's the same skull logo used by The Punisher, who's whole deal is that he takes the law into his own hands.

That's Chris Kyle's logo with the date of his murder.

montoya32 · Feb 25, 2015

teratos said:
Absurd. You are self-employed.

You might want to consider changing your Avatar. The Hogan administration may not appreciate the skull when you are asking for a permit. Just from a PR perspective.....

I understand and appreciate the advice, but I am too furious right now to cave to the PC image and change it. It may hurt me in the long run, but since when have I given a crap?

Inigoes · Feb 25, 2015

So much for the Hogan administration being friendly to the 2A!

montoya32 · Feb 25, 2015

Inigoes said:
So much for the Hogan administration being friendly to the 2A!

I am not pinning this on Hogan.....yet. This is being done by people already in place. I would hope he would be upset at this and would want it corrected.

lowoncash · Feb 25, 2015

Would it help to have the brokerage write a letter stating that you are self employed and they have no authority over the question of you being armed?

Inigoes · Feb 25, 2015

montoya32 said:
I am not pinning this on Hogan.....yet. This is being done by people already in place. I would hope he would be upset at this and would want it corrected.

Bring it to his attention with an email.

mxrider · Feb 25, 2015

lowoncash said:
Would it help to have the brokerage write a letter stating that you are self employed and they have no authority over the question of you being armed?

That is actually a good idea.

montoya32 · Feb 25, 2015

lowoncash said:
Would it help to have the brokerage write a letter stating that you are self employed and they have no authority over the question of you being armed?

That's a good idea. I may send that in, in place of what the SGT. asked for.

teratos · Feb 25, 2015

Inigoes said:
So much for the Hogan administration being friendly to the 2A!

Doesn't mean they are not friendly. The 2A battle, whether we like it or not, relies on PR as much as anything. I understand the fundamental Right argument, but stomping our feet will get us nowhere.

That is just one person's (my) opinion. I do not contend that people need to listen to what I say.

J-Dog · Feb 25, 2015

montoya32 said:
That's Chris Kyle's logo with the date of his murder.

It may be. I'm not trying to be a jerk or anything, but the image has connotations of revenge killing and taking the law into your own hands. Probably not the image you want to convey if you're trying to get a CCW.

I'm going guess that you don't read a lot of comic books.

Inigoes · Feb 25, 2015

teratos said:
Doesn't mean they are not friendly. The 2A battle, whether we like it or not, relies on PR as much as anything. I understand the fundamental Right argument, but stomping our feet will get us nowhere.

That is just one person's (my) opinion. I do not contend that people need to listen to what I say.

There is an analogy that tends to work:

The squeaky wheel gets the grease.

There is no stomping of the feet, nor breath holding. Policies will be reviewed, and changes implemented.

montoya32 · Feb 25, 2015

J-Dog said:
It may be.
I'm going guess that you don't read a lot of comic books.

I know what the skull is from. I'm not here to argue about a logo. Sorry. Just pissed right now.

J-Dog · Feb 25, 2015

montoya32 said:
I know what the skull is from. I'm not here to argue about a logo. Sorry. Just pissed right now.

S'ok. No offense intended on my part either.

Good luck with the permit.

lowoncash · Feb 25, 2015

montoya32 said:
That's a good idea. I may send that in, in place of what the SGT. asked for.

Hope it works. Keep us posted.

ccarson · Feb 25, 2015

Can't believe that Wes or Gary or Paul won't do you that solid!
Maybe your own Brokerage is in order and as a requirement the REALTORS® must all be able to demonstrate their ability to defend themselves. You can have rules that IC must follow to be affiliated with you

teratos · Feb 25, 2015

Inigoes said:
There is an analogy that tends to work:

The squeaky wheel gets the grease.

There is no stomping of the feet, nor breath holding. Policies will be reviewed, and changes implemented.

Policies need to be changed. Making noise is good. Hogan (and everyone in Annapolis, for that matter) is a politician first and foremost. He will oil the wheel that makes him look best. We need to make it appealing for him. If you want to win the game, you need to play the right way. At the same time, I would never suggest that anyone compromise their principles. We all have the same goal. Tim is a good test case for this. Handsome, well-spoken, family man.

BTW, Inigoes, I wasn't suggesting you were doing any foot stomping in my previous post. I don't know that it came across quite right.

SRD · Feb 25, 2015

Is this for a new permit or renewal? Sorry if I missed it.

MSP being ridiculous about my CCW app.

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