It all looks good. Nice setup.
The Official 1-4X Scope Thread
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My Noveske with a PST 1-4 on a PEPR.
Posted a basic one in Dan's forum so I'll paste it here. Feel free to pm me with any questions. Needless to say I was very pleased.
From my GC thread: Took it out today and man was I impressed. Took me a bit to get it sighted in as it was pretty low out of the box but it was dead on centered. I really felt comfortable with the reticle and it didn't appear too busy at all. The adjustment knobs were tight and engaged positively. I was surprised that I could actually get a clear view well before the top setting on the illumination in bright sunlight conditions. I'm sure the Noveske barrel you installed last year helped, but this thing is a tack driver.
Thanks again and thumbs up on the strike eagle. What a great 1-6 for the price.
rangerone314
Member
Anyone have any thoughts on mounting an Elcan Specter 1-4x on a SCAR 17S, vs other choices?
It's a pretty nice scope, which is what you'd expect for $2000.
I was actually planning on going the Burris XTR II 1.5-8x route for my CMMG Mk8 build, which is more $1200 once you factor in a decent mount. Different paradigm than the Elcan, but I feel like 4x is a bit of a waste on a 7.62x51 gun.
I was actually planning on going the Burris XTR II 1.5-8x route for my CMMG Mk8 build, which is more $1200 once you factor in a decent mount. Different paradigm than the Elcan, but I feel like 4x is a bit of a waste on a 7.62x51 gun.
Markp
Ultimate Member
- Dec 22, 2008
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I just purchased a Bushnell 1-4 AR/223 First Focal Plane scope with illuminated reticle [Product Number IK-713996] (with free cabela's credit card points). It's currently mounted on a 11.5" AR flat top upper using a PEPR 30mm mount.
Bushnell's video -> http://www.cabelas.com/catalog/vide...oductId=1580700&scene7Id=CII Bushnell2NRA2013
First things first, if I had to bitch about anything, I think that the reticle could be larger. The scope has .1 mil turrets but a bullet drop .223 reticle, so I am not entirely sure how useful milirads is verus MOA with this reticle. This is one of those scopes where you zero the rifle at 25 or 100 yards forget it. It is definitely fast to acquire the reticle in 4x, but the reticle is too small (unless illuminated) for fast work at 1x.
The glass is clear and bright, performance through the range of 1-4x is consistent without darkening. Eye relief is good. Turrets are crisp and turn easily with deliberate force but appear firm enough not to move accidentally, clicks are audible but not excessively loud. Both eyes open shooting will be a breeze in 1x (and it doesn't feel awkward even in 4x).
Overall, having not shot with it yet. It appears to be a fairly decent scope especially considering the sub-$300 price point.
Bushnell's video -> http://www.cabelas.com/catalog/vide...oductId=1580700&scene7Id=CII Bushnell2NRA2013
First things first, if I had to bitch about anything, I think that the reticle could be larger. The scope has .1 mil turrets but a bullet drop .223 reticle, so I am not entirely sure how useful milirads is verus MOA with this reticle. This is one of those scopes where you zero the rifle at 25 or 100 yards forget it. It is definitely fast to acquire the reticle in 4x, but the reticle is too small (unless illuminated) for fast work at 1x.
The glass is clear and bright, performance through the range of 1-4x is consistent without darkening. Eye relief is good. Turrets are crisp and turn easily with deliberate force but appear firm enough not to move accidentally, clicks are audible but not excessively loud. Both eyes open shooting will be a breeze in 1x (and it doesn't feel awkward even in 4x).
Overall, having not shot with it yet. It appears to be a fairly decent scope especially considering the sub-$300 price point.
I run the Bushnell 1-4x Throw Down PCL on a 5.45x39 upper, but I am planning on moving it to my Sig 556 SBR once I get a MFI folding front sight on it. I did the math in Strelok Pro, and it looks like the lines should be at about 250, 325, 400, and 475 yards on the Sig platform.
I think it would be the perfect optic if it were a bit lighter and had somewhat better illumination. IMHO, the reticle is perfectly fine (arguably one of the better choices, in fact), but washes out just a bit too fast in sunny scenes. In theory, you should always have the reticle (if it washes out, black should work fine!), but it is slightly slower to pick up. I just make the point of always running the scope with illumination on max and keeping some spare batteries around. As you noted, it's a surprisingly clear optic for the price.
I think it would be the perfect optic if it were a bit lighter and had somewhat better illumination. IMHO, the reticle is perfectly fine (arguably one of the better choices, in fact), but washes out just a bit too fast in sunny scenes. In theory, you should always have the reticle (if it washes out, black should work fine!), but it is slightly slower to pick up. I just make the point of always running the scope with illumination on max and keeping some spare batteries around. As you noted, it's a surprisingly clear optic for the price.
TEN-X
Member
Burris makes an excellent product
Ihave been usibf Burris scopes for the last 10 yrs. I beat up Leupold Vari X II on a CZ 375 H&H. Switched to a Burris Fulfield II 1.75-5. 800 rds of full charged 300 gr loads and it still going strong. Good eye relief, wide fielld of view and excellent clarity.
The AR scope I like the best for the money is the M-Tac 1-4. I've had this scope on a 16" build for 2 yrs with no problems. The ocular ring does not move when you change power like the Tac-30. I like the reticle for 0 to about 300 yds and its more than bright enough when lit. Haven't been abble to try it longer ranges. Good clarity, light trans. field of view and most importantly for a tactical scope, wide eyebox. I can't tell the difference in clarity from my high end Weaver tactical 1-5X, (MSRP $1000, $670 from Midway) that has Japanese glass. I found the M-TAC on Ebay for $399.
Ihave been usibf Burris scopes for the last 10 yrs. I beat up Leupold Vari X II on a CZ 375 H&H. Switched to a Burris Fulfield II 1.75-5. 800 rds of full charged 300 gr loads and it still going strong. Good eye relief, wide fielld of view and excellent clarity.
The AR scope I like the best for the money is the M-Tac 1-4. I've had this scope on a 16" build for 2 yrs with no problems. The ocular ring does not move when you change power like the Tac-30. I like the reticle for 0 to about 300 yds and its more than bright enough when lit. Haven't been abble to try it longer ranges. Good clarity, light trans. field of view and most importantly for a tactical scope, wide eyebox. I can't tell the difference in clarity from my high end Weaver tactical 1-5X, (MSRP $1000, $670 from Midway) that has Japanese glass. I found the M-TAC on Ebay for $399.
dreadpirate
Ultimate Member
Thanks. Yes it is. Although I'm gonna put a higher magnification optic on it.
INMY01TA
Ultimate Member
- Dec 29, 2008
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Burris's new XTRII 1-8 looks pretty bad ass. Capped or uncapped turrets, 1st or 2nd focal plane.
http://www.burrisoptics.com/scopes/xtr-ii-riflescopes-series/xtr-ii-riflescope-1-8x24
http://www.burrisoptics.com/scopes/xtr-ii-riflescopes-series/xtr-ii-riflescope-1-8x24
vgplayer
Ultimate Member
Posted this in the depot
Trijicon Accupower 1-4 BDC $543.69
https://www.kygunco.com/trijicon-ac...-circledot-crosshair-wred-led-30mm-tube-92818
Normally best price I see is $765
Trijicon Accupower 1-4 BDC $543.69
https://www.kygunco.com/trijicon-ac...-circledot-crosshair-wred-led-30mm-tube-92818
Normally best price I see is $765
looks awesome for 1-8x and 34mm tube, price is right when compared to similar powered scopes!!!
Definitely a Burris fan, my MTAC is great for $300!!
IMG_6249 by 556 Channel (HD), on Flickr
IMG_6257 by 556 Channel (HD), on Flickr
IMG_6261 by 556 Channel (HD), on Flickr
IMG_6345 by 556 Channel (HD), on Flickr
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Couldn't get the link to work for me.
Ericw
Member
Any experience/opinions on this scope or alternatives at this price point? All-around use: maybe some 2-gun, short/medium range varmints/predators...
BSA Gold Star 1-6 x 20mm (6X Zoom) Rifle Scope with EZ Hunter Reticle - $170
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00640MOW2/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1WB700LJYWJ6W
BSA Gold Star 1-6 x 20mm (6X Zoom) Rifle Scope with EZ Hunter Reticle - $170
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00640MOW2/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1WB700LJYWJ6W
dreadpirate
Ultimate Member
yes sir - that's a beauty! [EDIT - ok - dupe - I already commented]
Indiana Jones
Wolverine
I have looked through both models. I prefer the reticle on the the rear focal plane one, but both were kickass.
I think engineerbrian might have gotten to see one too.
engineerbrian
JMB fan club
I have looked through both models. I prefer the reticle on the the rear focal plane one, but both were kickass.
Sure did! Love this optic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvpWKKB2spM
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Got the bushnell 1-4 w/throwdown lever for a compact build I'm working on (just need to drill/pin/weld the FH so I can put the upper on the lower) today off PSA. Figured for $150 it can't be too bad a deal with all the reviews I've seen. Not expecting USO clarity, of course. Range toy/possible SHTF toy. 
have a primary arms on my .300 blackout SBR, and that's been fine. If this is a little lighter I may swap it out though, who knows.
have a primary arms on my .300 blackout SBR, and that's been fine. If this is a little lighter I may swap it out though, who knows.
krucam
Ultimate Member
Anyone have the new Primary Arms 1-8? Seriously toying with grabbing this one at $380. The new Burris looks tempting as well.
http://www.primaryarms.com/pa1-8x24sfp-acss-556/p/pa1-8x24sfp-acss-5.56/
http://www.primaryarms.com/pa1-8x24sfp-acss-556/p/pa1-8x24sfp-acss-5.56/
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