El Patron Grande says:
Amen to those Pakistani-lookin' store owners.
El Patron Grande has no fear of rioters ever causing damage to his home.
Re: Kolbe v O'Malley... AR/AK "Common Use"
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El Patron Grande says:
Amen to those Pakistani-lookin' store owners.
El Patron Grande has no fear of rioters ever causing damage to his home.
It is fine if you are at the top of the stairs looking down. It will just embeded in the ground.
That being said, the Saiga12 or a handgun is better.
TxAggie
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As others have mentioned, if we're using the Common Use for HD definition, we've allowed them to control the argument. Turn it around on them:
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
The debate over "the people" and "shall not be infringed" has been going on for decades. I propose another debate.
Necessary: required
The 2A is the only place I have found that makes an action required (necessary) of the people.
Security: the state of being free from danger or threat.
Note that this is different from defense (the action of defending from or resisting attack.) Defense only occurs when security has already broken down.
So essentially, the 2A requires all citizens to be armed to aid in providing security for the state. It's not about defending your home, it's about securing the country, and that can't be done in the modern age with spitballs and rimfire.
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
The debate over "the people" and "shall not be infringed" has been going on for decades. I propose another debate.
Necessary: required
The 2A is the only place I have found that makes an action required (necessary) of the people.
Security: the state of being free from danger or threat.
Note that this is different from defense (the action of defending from or resisting attack.) Defense only occurs when security has already broken down.
So essentially, the 2A requires all citizens to be armed to aid in providing security for the state. It's not about defending your home, it's about securing the country, and that can't be done in the modern age with spitballs and rimfire.
http://fox2now.com/2014/08/16/store-owners-guard-ferguson-stores-with-their-own-guns/
Regardless of how many times they're used for self-defense, the hope is is that they'll never have to be used that way.
Kharn
Ultimate Member
http://toprightnews.com/?p=5136
Story identifies AR15 by name as being used to defend a tattoo parlor.
Story identifies AR15 by name as being used to defend a tattoo parlor.
here's a spreadsheet of all the military surplus given to law enforcement departments in maryland 2006-2014.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oWEQaMC4NB3u0IfQtg2K1wfZwbUMcmaz6PHi8uH4Vbc/edit
id like to see a count of each type of weapon per county/department, vs the number of officers in that county/department. id like to see just how common their use is in md law enforcement. I think it woukd make a surprising stat in our favor. however im in a cast and cant sit in front of a computer right now. anyone want to take up the chllnge?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oWEQaMC4NB3u0IfQtg2K1wfZwbUMcmaz6PHi8uH4Vbc/edit
id like to see a count of each type of weapon per county/department, vs the number of officers in that county/department. id like to see just how common their use is in md law enforcement. I think it woukd make a surprising stat in our favor. however im in a cast and cant sit in front of a computer right now. anyone want to take up the chllnge?
Mr H
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this has served my need
Someone else wants to go bigger, there's nothing stopping them
pcfixer
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It has been estimated that at least 3.3 million AR-15 rifles were sold in the United States between 1986 and 2009. In its ubiquity, the AR-15 is a modern musket—the default rifle with which law-abiding Americans exercise their right to keep and bear arms.
This is pretty good .....http://www.assaultweapon.info/
This is pretty good .....http://www.assaultweapon.info/
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