What are the ATF eForms Payment Methods?

daijizai · Sep 27, 2013

Just got my trust together, and need to know what payment method will be needed on ATF on-line eForms site so I can push my bank to issue that payment method on my new trust account.

Can anyone help? Can I pay by 'check' using routing and account numbers, or is credit card required? Thanks. :-)

Looking forward to getting stuff submitted in time to SBR my PS90.

Jakedasnake · Sep 27, 2013

Check, money order, cashiers only!!!

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daijizai · Sep 27, 2013

Good to know. This thread seemed to imply that credit card payment was an option: http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=132261

I was not sure if it was the only option when done on-line.

daijizai · Sep 27, 2013

And this says credit card payment: http://www.guntrustlawyer.com/2013/08/gun-trust-and-submitting-atf-f.html

SneakySh0rty · Sep 27, 2013

Jakedasnake said:
Check, money order, cashiers only!!!

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daijizai said:
And this says credit card payment: http://www.guntrustlawyer.com/2013/08/gun-trust-and-submitting-atf-f.html

I just submitted mine online... did not see check or money order. He probably meant that for mailing it.

Credit Cards accepted online. AMEX, VISA, MASTERCARD, and i cant remember if there was another one/two.

sundaeman · Sep 27, 2013

ATF doesn't accept ACH for whatever reason.

From pay.gov -

What types of plastic cards are accepted?
Pay.gov accepts both credit and debit cards. We accept Visa, MasterCard, American Express, and Discover credit cards. Debit cards processed through Visa or MasterCard are also accepted; these have the Visa or MasterCard logo on the card. ATM-only cards and debit cards from other processors are not accepted.

JailHouseLiar · Sep 28, 2013

SneakySh0rty said:
I just submitted mine online... did not see check or money order. He probably meant that for mailing it.

Credit Cards accepted online. AMEX, VISA, MASTERCARD, and i cant remember if there was another one/two.

Correct. I used it today.

bobthefisher · Dec 6, 2013

How does the eForm thing work with the signature part of a Form 1 when doing an SBR/SBS? Going to be trying the whole eForm thing here shortly with my NFA trust paperwork. Just wondering what to expect. Thanks fellas!

Pwilliams1 · Dec 6, 2013

If I remember correctly you enter your social for signature. It's been a little while for me so I'm a little hazy. Debit card is fine though. Mine went though in my name. I don't have a card for my trust. I've heard conflicting stories on whether payment method has to be in the trust's name. I guess we'll see what happens.

SneakySh0rty · Dec 6, 2013

bobthefisher said:
How does the eForm thing work with the signature part of a Form 1 when doing an SBR/SBS? Going to be trying the whole eForm thing here shortly with my NFA trust paperwork. Just wondering what to expect. Thanks fellas!

If you are referring to Section 7, Signature of Applicant of the paper form. I believe when you fill out the eform online, you basically check a box saying the information you provided is up to date and true. I think that suffices vs an actual signature

Pwilliams1 said:
If I remember correctly you enter your social for signature. It's been a little while for me so I'm a little hazy. Debit card is fine though. Mine went though in my name. I don't have a card for my trust. I've heard conflicting stories on whether payment method has to be in the trust's name. I guess we'll see what happens.

why would one enter a social security number for a signature?

mtel · Dec 6, 2013

daijizai said:
Just got my trust together, and need to know what payment method will be needed on ATF on-line eForms site so I can push my bank to issue that payment method on my new trust account.

Can anyone help? Can I pay by 'check' using routing and account numbers, or is credit card required? Thanks. :-)

Looking forward to getting stuff submitted in time to SBR my PS90.

Like sundaeman said, unfortunately no ACH (yet anyway). I tried going that route. My bank doesn't issue debit cards to trusts but I wanted my trust to pay the tax.

In case your bank's policy is the same, turns out non-branded debit gift cards worked for me (which I had my trust buy).

The rechargeable cards don't work because they need a SSN and DOB for registration. The debit cards for one-time use (gift cards) only require a name and address for registration. I just used my trust name as the first name and "trust" as the last name. Worked just fine.

mtel · Dec 6, 2013

bobthefisher said:
How does the eForm thing work with the signature part of a Form 1 when doing an SBR/SBS? Going to be trying the whole eForm thing here shortly with my NFA trust paperwork. Just wondering what to expect. Thanks fellas!

After you pay you're taken to a screen where you check a box and hit enter to submit your application. Your application is digitally signed once you submit.

On your form the "signature of applicant" box will just state "digitally signed".

matt_yamaha_guy_450 · Dec 10, 2013

SneakySh0rty said:
I just submitted mine online... did not see check or money order. He probably meant that for mailing it.

Credit Cards accepted online. AMEX, VISA, MASTERCARD, and i cant remember if there was another one/two.

Wouldn't the $200.00 have to be payed out of the trust?

ArmedInMd · Jan 2, 2014

I paid with my credit card and did not have any problems. I just got my email that my stamps were approved. :party29:

anderson76 · Jan 2, 2014

This idea that your trust will fail for failure to use a separate bank account for a typical gun trust is just another idiotic myth perpetuated by one uniformed “gun trust lawyer” mindlessly parroting information disseminated by some other uniformed “gun trust lawyer”.

Use your personal credit card and you will be GTG.

pwoolford · Jan 2, 2014

ArmedInMd said:
I paid with my credit card and did not have any problems. I just got my email that my stamps were approved.

Congrats! When did you submit your form?

mtel · Jan 2, 2014

anderson76 said:
This idea that your trust will fail for failure to use a separate bank account for a typical gun trust is just another idiotic myth perpetuated by one uniformed “gun trust lawyer” mindlessly parroting information disseminated by some other uniformed “gun trust lawyer”.

Use your personal credit card and you will be GTG.

How did you come to that conclusion? Are you a trust law attorney?

bobthefisher · Jan 2, 2014

mtel said:
How did you come to that conclusion? Are you a trust law attorney?

O god, please not again.

mtel · Jan 2, 2014

I meant the question literally not sarcastically. Honestly had no idea the subject was a previous can of worms.

I was curious why the opinion was so strong but no answer needed though.

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