optics you have on your AR

• Oct 27, 2014

• #1

BLACKTALON

Ammo is like food

Aug 4, 2011

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severna park

what optic do you run?
what are the pros and cons to you?
price?
looking for a red dot and magnified optic
edited thanks erwos knew I was missing something they will be going on a 14.5 with pinned FH and a 16 inch gun both in 5.56

 

• Oct 27, 2014

• #2

erwos

The Hebrew Hammer

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Mar 25, 2009

13,886

Rockville, MD

SBR? Reflex sight.
Carbine in 5.56/7.62/.300? 1-X scope or fixed compact scope (ie, ACOG or PA Prism)
Carbine in some oddball caliber? Reflex sight w/ magnifier.
Rifle? Scope.

As for pricing, here's the heuristic:
Range toy? Primary Arms non-Advanced line.
Serious combat rifle? Aimpoint/Eotech/Trijicon/Meprolight.
In-between? Burris, Bushnell, Vortex, PA Advanced, etc.

I consider "in-between" to be something like a 9mm AR-15. It's a gun you could use for serious work, but it's obsolete and not the first thing I would pick up. I want an optic that's going to be durable and reliable, but it doesn't necessarily need to be bomb-proof. OTOH, if you can buy Aimpoints and ACOGs for all your in-between stuff, well, go for it... wish I had those funds.

 

• Oct 27, 2014

• #3

BLACKTALON

Ammo is like food

Aug 4, 2011

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severna park

erwos said:

SBR? Reflex sight.
Carbine in 5.56/7.62/.300? 1-X scope or fixed compact scope (ie, ACOG or PA Prism)
Carbine in some oddball caliber? Reflex sight w/ magnifier.
Rifle? Scope.

As for pricing, here's the heuristic:
Range toy? Primary Arms non-Advanced line.
Serious combat rifle? Aimpoint/Eotech/Trijicon/Meprolight.
In-between? Burris, Bushnell, Vortex, PA Advanced, etc.

I consider "in-between" to be something like a 9mm AR-15. It's a gun you could use for serious work, but it's obsolete and not the first thing I would pick up. I want an optic that's going to be durable and useful, but it doesn't necessarily need to be bomb-proof.

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Have you tried the MSE ?

 

• Oct 27, 2014

• #4

erwos

The Hebrew Hammer

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Mar 25, 2009

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BLACKTALON said:

Have you tried the MSE ?

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The MSE optic is basically obsolete now that Mepro has introduced the Tru-Dot, IMHO. No point spending $600 when you can get something better for $400 (auto-on/off and huge battery life beats multiple reticles any day of the week).

Also, let me note that my recommendations above are just starting points for thinking, not iron-clad rules. My Tavor doesn't have a magnifier, for example.

 

• Oct 27, 2014

• #5

SCARCQB

Get Opp my rawn, Plick!

Jun 25, 2008

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Im saving up for the MSE... Its the only thing that beats the eotech in terms of HDS.

For my ARs.. Its mostly Eotechs with FTS magnifiers. A couple of prismatic sights, 1-6x for three gun.

308s get a 4-14x mildot scope.

 

• Oct 27, 2014

• #6

erwos

The Hebrew Hammer

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Mar 25, 2009

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I am really not a huge fan of magnifiers, despite my recommendation... I feel like most reflex+mag setups can be very heavy, especially when using cheaper brands.

 

• Oct 27, 2014

• #7

redsandman6

Active Member

Dec 22, 2011

778

Dundalk

I have eotech 512. on a 16" barreled AR.
price $300-$400 range. I had a mail in rebate.
pros. I like the circle with the dot. easier and faster to line up quick shots
cons. with me wearing glasses the dot/circle appears grainy.

I went with the 512 mostly because of price. it was a good optic for the price.

I will not buy any magnification to go with the 512. I would get a 1x-4x or 1x-6x before I get a magnifier.

 

• Oct 27, 2014

• #8

mopar92

Official MDS Court Jester

May 5, 2011

9,513

Taneytown

I have a Lucid HD7 Gen III.
Pros:
Multiple reticles
Common battery size (AAA)
Protected turrets
Auto adjust brightness
Available 2X magnifier (screw in)
Available 2-5x magnifier (sold seperately)

Cons:
No QD (well available seperately)
Auto shut off after 2 hours
Heavy
Not AS battle proven as Aimpoint


If you want you can supply ammo and take it for a test drive.

 

• Oct 27, 2014

• #9

lilgibby

"man gotta have a code."

Sep 17, 2011

1,038

Elkton

saving for a aimpoint pro but when my order gets here ill be putting on my bushnell red dot that a member here posted about that was on sale.

 

• Oct 27, 2014

• #10

BLACKTALON

Ammo is like food

Aug 4, 2011

3,318

severna park

erwos said:

The MSE optic is basically obsolete now that Mepro has introduced the Tru-Dot, IMHO. No point spending $600 when you can get something better for $400 (auto-on/off and huge battery life beats multiple reticles any day of the week).

Also, let me note that my recommendations above are just starting points for thinking, not iron-clad rules. My Tavor doesn't have a magnifier, for example.

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no worrys just wondering what everyone is running

 

• Oct 27, 2014

• #11

hogarth

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Jun 13, 2009

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My AR pistol has an Aimpoint PRO. The 16 inch has a Leupold VXR Patrol 1.25x4.

 

• Oct 27, 2014

• #12

BLACKTALON

Ammo is like food

Aug 4, 2011

3,318

severna park

hogarth said:

My AR pistol has an Aimpoint PRO. The 16 inch has a Leupold VXR Patrol 1.25x4.

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what did you pick the pro up for price wise

 

• Oct 27, 2014

• #13

erwos

The Hebrew Hammer

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Mar 25, 2009

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Rockville, MD

That Lucid 2-5x magnifier is super-intriguing to me. I want a magnifier I can screw around with, and it looks flexible for that.

 

• Oct 27, 2014

• #14

SCARCQB

Get Opp my rawn, Plick!

Jun 25, 2008

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Erwos , my wife hates you.....

She saw me shopping online for a mepro trudot... I blamed you for it.

 

• Oct 27, 2014

• #15

erwos

The Hebrew Hammer

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Mar 25, 2009

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SCARCQB said:

Erwos , my wife hates you.....

She saw me shopping online for a mepro trudot... I blamed you for it.

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You can find them for $380 here:
http://www.7-62precision.com/mepro-tru-dot-rds-red-dot-sight-with-1-8-moa-red-dot/

Alas, the "special edition" aluminum hood dots are sold out, but the polymer hood version is just as good.

 

• Oct 27, 2014

• #16

Klunatic

Ultimate Member

Feb 28, 2011

2,923

Montgomery Cty

I have an Eotech XPS2 and magnifier. It sits on a .300BLK with 16" barrel. I also have a Trijicon ACOG 300BLK 3x30. For the money of the Eotech with the magnifier I compared to the Trijicon, I prefer the Trijicon. I might be convinced to sell my XPS and magnifier if your interested.

 

• Oct 27, 2014

• #17

N

Name Taken

Ultimate Member

Feb 23, 2010

11,891

Central

TA-33 Acog.

Pros: It's awesome
No battery
About 10-12 year half life

Cons: No battery
Cost

 

• Oct 27, 2014

• #18

JohnnyE

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Jan 18, 2013

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MoCo

what optic do you run?
Elcan Spectre DR 1-4x on an LE6920.

What are the pros?
Outstanding light gathering and clarity.
Prefer this to the ACOG's.
Love the 1-4 mag change lever. 4x is fine to 300 yards.
Reticle etching is clear and easy to see/use.

and cons to you?
No diopter to adjust focus for my aging eyes.

price?
Ugh. Was $1800. The really bad news.

looking for a red dot and magnified optic .

 

• Oct 27, 2014

• #19

platoonDaddy

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Jun 30, 2011

4,154

SouthOfBalto

Vortex 3X Magnifier with Vortex Sparc II - Since I shoot left-hand the magnifier flips to the left, when using Iron sights (lower 1/3 co-witness). M4-lower with Colt HBAR complete upper

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On my AR-15 SP1 Colt 3X20

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• Oct 27, 2014

• #20

hogarth

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Jun 13, 2009

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BLACKTALON said:

what did you pick the pro up for price wise

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If you pick the right time to get one, you can snag one for around $350. If you are considering one now, I would wait for Black Monday and see who has them on sale. Unless, of course, you spot a sale before then. I also bought one lightly used on M4Carbine.net, where people seem to always be swapping optics. It's where I got the variable, too.