Euroarms - Rogers and Spencer Conversion - 45 LC or 45 acp?

marylandmanson · May 5, 2016

I am looking for a conversion cylinder for my Rogers and Spencer .44 from Euroarms. Noticed Howell's Old West has both a .45 LC and .45 acp conversion cylinders. I have read about how you should use cowboy loads when firing a cartridge round through a bp pistol, but I'm guessing the .45 acp should be OK if they make a cylinder specifically for it. I would lean towards the .45 acp simply because my other pistol is a 1911 and the ammo is so much cheaper.

Any thoughts on the .45 acp vs. .45 LC conversion?

Thanks

Art3 · May 5, 2016

Do you reload? Personally, I'd go LC and load it with bp...but that's just what I like...

marylandmanson · May 6, 2016

Don't reload yet, and probably not in the near future. There is a certain appeal to using LC for the authenticity and the puff of smoke coming out the barrel. OTH I guess I could use lead acp and should help prolong barrel life if I went that route.

alucard0822 · May 6, 2016

Shouldn't be a problem with either, a revolver with a top strap and full steel frame holds up better than most, similar to 1858 Remington conversions, 45ACP is convenient, 45 colt is a classic, so the obvious answer is both. I wouldn't push it and run +p though, as far as jacketed vs cast, neither should damage the barrel, but BP revolvers tend to have deep rifling, and might see better accuracy from lead or plated.

jimbobborg · May 6, 2016

Get both.

marylandmanson · May 6, 2016

Both may be the answer, but I think I'll start with the LC for now. I emailed Maggie at Howell Old West Conversions and she said that the .acp ammo should be lead and should be cowboy load not exceeding 850 fps muzzle velocity. So that rules out most of the really cheap .acp. So I am looking at $.40/rd for .acp vs $.60/rd for LC. Think I'll go with the LC for the authenticity factor and learn to reload eventually.

Blacksmith101 · May 6, 2016

Kirst Konverters offer both calibers for some guns and you can buy one ring with two cylinders one of each and shoot whichever you want:
http://www.kirstkonverter.com/shopdisplayproducts.asp?page=3

Art3 · May 6, 2016

marylandmanson said:
Both may be the answer, but I think I'll start with the LC for now. I emailed Maggie at Howell Old West Conversions and she said that the .acp ammo should be lead and should be cowboy load not exceeding 850 fps muzzle velocity. So that rules out most of the really cheap .acp. So I am looking at $.40/rd for .acp vs $.60/rd for LC. Think I'll go with the LC for the authenticity factor and learn to reload eventually.

Yay for traditional!

I usually see cowboy LC loads at gun shows or Cabelas for $30-35 a box. Given the loading process, you're not going to burn through ammo as fast as your 1911 could, so it might seem like the box lasts longer. (I don't know...I'm just trying to make your wallet feel better about it :shrug:

)

In the past year or so, I've seen a lot of Remington Target .45LC in a green box. This is definitely hotter than cowboy loads. Based on the entirely subjective measurements of felt recoil and muzzle blast out of my Redhawk that shoots LC and ACP, it is also noticeably hotter than ACP as well...so I'd definitely steer clear of it for your conversion.

Definitely save your brass, and have fun!

Blacksmith101 · May 6, 2016

You may also want to get a conventional base pin to replace the loading lever for easier reloads.

marylandmanson · May 6, 2016

Blacksmith101 said:
You may also want to get a conventional base pin to replace the loading lever for easier reloads.

That's a great idea, especially since it can be a pain to get everything aligned with the loading lever. I figure even if I get both conversions, I am still coming out ahead since a SAA would cost a lot more. And I have been wanting some kind of Single action for some time now. So win-win.

Blacksmith101 · May 7, 2016

marylandmanson said:
That's a great idea, especially since it can be a pain to get everything aligned with the loading lever. I figure even if I get both conversions, I am still coming out ahead since a SAA would cost a lot more. And I have been wanting some kind of Single action for some time now. So win-win.

Belt Mountain makes base pins for Rugers and Colts but I don't know about your gun:
http://www.beltmountain.com/

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