Gun Purchasing for out of state residents on Military Orders

Hollywoodwvu · Sep 30, 2014

So, I was at the Dulles Gun show this weekend and wanted to purchase a S&W M&P15 Semi automatic .22 rifle. I am an Ohio resident in stationed in MD on Military Orders. I brought my Drivers License, Military Orders, and 3 pieces of mail that proved my MD address. Long story short, I was getting a good deal with regards to price and additional accessories, then the dealer said that he couldn't sell me the gun because I have an Ohio DL. Did this dealer realize that I was getting the best of him and backed out of the deal, or was he right?? BTW, he was a VA Dealer.

I've always been able to purchase rifles/shotguns from OH, WV, PA, etc. My handguns have always been purchased from OH just to be safe.

So, here's my question...what guns can I purchase in MD/VA with an Ohio DL? Rifles, Shotguns, Handguns? Help, I'm really confused....

bigalf · Sep 30, 2014

I am military also, you can buy anything you want in MD with orders, and you are exempt from HQL. You can also buy anything you want in OH. And I think you can buy any rifle that is not banned in MD out of state. IANAL. YMMV.

Hollywoodwvu · Sep 30, 2014

bigalf said:
I am military also, you can buy anything you want in MD with orders, and you are exempt from HQL. You can also buy anything you want in OH. And I think you can buy any rifle that is not banned in MD out of state. IANAL. YMMV.

That's what I thought, I think the guy didn't want to go through with the deal and used a lame a$$ excuse... Thanks for the reply.

Pinecone · Sep 30, 2014

Basically it was legal transaction both as an Ohio resident and an MD "resident" here in active duty orders.

Lou45 · Oct 1, 2014

Pinecone said:
Basically it was legal transaction both as an Ohio resident and an MD "resident" here in active duty orders.

THIS ^^^. However there are alotta' VA dealers at that show (and other VA shows too) that WON'T sell MD legal long guns to Marylanders or residents of other states for that matter.

K31 · Oct 1, 2014

Now hold on a second, we can't have people running around with guns just because they are in the military.

Pinecone · Oct 1, 2014

K31 said:
Now hold on a second, we can't have people running around with guns just because they are in the military.

Like a friend of mine, who was having their bag searched at the airport (pre-TSA, so contractor) and asked the lady searching if she was looking for anything specific, and maybe he could help her find it. She told him, "I am loking for anything that might allow you to gain control of the aircraft."

Funny, he was in his AIRLINE uniform, with 4 stripes (Captain) so once the door was closed, he WAS in charge of the aircraft.

Hollywoodwvu · Oct 1, 2014

Lou45 said:
THIS ^^^. However there are alotta' VA dealers at that show (and other VA shows too) that WON'T sell MD legal long guns to Marylanders or residents of other states for that matter.

That blows my mind. Guess they only want VA money :lol2:

pcfixer · Oct 2, 2014

Pinecone said:
Like a friend of mine, who was having their bag searched at the airport (pre-TSA, so contractor) and asked the lady searching if she was looking for anything specific, and maybe he could help her find it. She told him, "I am loking for anything that might allow you to gain control of the aircraft."

Funny, he was in his AIRLINE uniform, with 4 stripes (Captain) so once the door was closed, he WAS in charge of the aircraft.

Bill Engvall "Here's Your Sign" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBjelRDKHUk

1BADI5 · Oct 2, 2014

I have bought there are few times.

If your military with orders assigning you to a base or post in "Virginia" all you need it your MIL ID card and copy of your orders.

Virginia Law allows sales to MIL members with that documentation and the NICs check. If you have that stuff its cash and carry...thats how my transaction worked out. I even double checked the laws and spoke with a couple FFLs prior to my first transaction

Hollywoodwvu · Oct 2, 2014

Thanks for all the insight folks. I just wanted to make sure I was in the right, in case it ever happens again.

Blaster229 · Oct 2, 2014

Pinecone said:
Like a friend of mine, who was having their bag searched at the airport (pre-TSA, so contractor) and asked the lady searching if she was looking for anything specific, and maybe he could help her find it. She told him, "I am loking for anything that might allow you to gain control of the aircraft."

Funny, he was in his AIRLINE uniform, with 4 stripes (Captain) so once the door was closed, he WAS in charge of the aircraft.

They don't have KNOWN crew member at Dulles?

Pinecone · Oct 2, 2014

1) Did I ever say Dulles???????

2) This was PRE-TSA, so the low bid contractors that did "security" back before 2001. And EVERYONE went through "security."

Lou45 · Oct 2, 2014

Pinecone said:
1) Did I ever say Dulles???????

2) This was PRE-TSA, so the "LOW BID" contractors that did "security" back before 2001. And EVERYONE went through "security."

Can I pretty well assume, at least in this case, that "LOW BID" contractors equates "LOW IQ" personnel???

Easytarget18 · Oct 3, 2014

Pinecone said:
1) Did I ever say Dulles???????

2) This was PRE-TSA, so the low bid contractors that did "security" back before 2001. And EVERYONE went through "security."

As opposed to the crack force of agents the TSA deploys now,

Pinecone · Oct 3, 2014

Easytarget18 said:
As opposed to the crack force of agents the TSA deploys now,

And would you go and do that job for a whopping $24K starting pay?

Easytarget18 · Oct 3, 2014

Pinecone said:
And would you go and do that job for a whopping $24K starting pay?

I didn't know that is all they get paid. I guess that makes it ok then.

Hol3shot · Oct 3, 2014

I had that happen before and it was from a lack of knowledge on the sellers part. I just don't think they wanted to admit it and came up with a BS excuse why he couldn't sell to me.

Pinecone · Oct 3, 2014

Easytarget18 said:
I didn't know that is all they get paid. I guess that makes it ok then.

Well, if you want better quality screeners, you need to contact your Congress critters and get them paid better.

A1Uni · Oct 3, 2014

Just a point of order, as an OH resident with orders showing you are stationed in MD you should be able to buy anything in either of those two states, but only long guns in other states.

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