Maryland local firearms laws that existed before 1/1/1985

Legal in Mo Co? probably not.

So I see an exemption for permit holders at public assembly but nothing for regular carry. Is this correct? Is regular carry prohibited even for permit holders? I need to be on a lawful mission? Isn't self defense a lawful mission?

esqappellate said:

put that howitzer away!

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How did you know?!?!

swinokur said:

So I see an exemption for permit holders at public assembly but nothing for regular carry. Is this correct? Is regular carry prohibited even for permit holders? I need to be on a lawful mission? Isn't self defense a lawful mission?

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The ban only applies to handguns designed for explosive ammo. That is an undefined term but it can't mean all handguns. See above

Inigoes said:

How did you know?!?!

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What can i say, you got a rep .... That 81mm mortar should be left at home too

esqappellate said:

What can i say, you got a rep .... That 81mm mortar should be left at home too

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Thank goodness for the FOPA! I swap out the stash between MD and PA.

swinokur said:

Legal in Mo Co? probably not.

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The windows could get serious smudges with that repeating high capacity weapon. So of course it is banned....

Inigoes said:

How did you know?!?!

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Your reputation precedes you.



I do hear that his next AOW will have the number's 105 or 120 in there somewhere...

BradMacc82 said:

Your reputation precedes you.

I do hear that his next AOW will have the number's 105 or 120 in there somewhere...

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Small potatoes!

Inigoes said:

Small potatoes!

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Alright then, if you can fire a 105 or 120 by hand, I'll let Chad anodize the piston upper pink.


That'd make a hell of a youtube video.

swinokur said:

Legal in Mo Co? probably not.

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esqappellate said:

The windows could get serious smudges with that repeating high capacity weapon. So of course it is banned....

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I hope not, I have about 5 of those. No kids either

So what is with the people of Montgomery County that they need all these extra laws to keep them in line? Glad I left Moco in 1977 for Calvert

Inigoes said:

After reading the AG's response to the questions we put forth for long gun carry. The AG's office mentioned any firearms laws that were enacted before 1/1/1985 are not preempted by State law.

What laws/ordinances by local governments exist today, that were enacted before 1/1/1985?

A resource that might have your local area:
http://www.municode.com/library/ClientListing.aspx?stateID=20

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This is a great link. Thanks.

Inigoes said:

Saint Marys County Code:

Ch. 317 of 1985, adding § 268C to Article 27 of the Annotated Code, provided that in St. Mary's County a person may not engage in target practice with or discharge a gun or weapon on certain lands without first obtaining written permission of specific individuals; provided that violation of said Act is a misdemeanor; and provided certain penalties on conviction of a violation of said Act.

http://library.municode.com/index.aspx?clientID=14466&stateID=20&statename=Maryland

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Who would the "specific individuals" be, land owner maybe?

Can anyone explain the meaning of this part of the MoCo Code:

Inigoes said:

Montgomery County:
Sec. 57-5. Discharge of guns outside the urban area.
(a) Prohibition. Except as provided in subsection (c)(1) through (c)(6), outside the urban area, a person, other than a peace officer or employee of the Maryland Department of Natural Resources performing official duties, must not:

(1) discharge a gun:

(A) onto, across, or within 50 yards of a public road;

(B) onto or across property located within 50 yards of a public road;

(C) into or within the safety zone (150 yards of a building or camp designed for human occupancy) without the owner or occupant's written consent; or

(C) from, onto, or across public or private property without the owner or occupant's written consent;

(2) discharge a full metal jacketed bullet of any caliber from a gun; or

(3) except as provided in subsection (b), discharge any fixed ammunition of a caliber higher than .25 caliber from a rifle or pistol.

(b) Exception - High Caliber Ammunition. A person may discharge fixed ammunition of a caliber higher than .25 from a rifle or pistol at:

(A) legal game or varmints on the ground; or

(B) a target on or near the ground that will not deflect a bullet.

(c) Other Exceptions. Except as provided in Sections 57-7 and 57-11, a person may discharge a gun:

(1) on any indoor or outdoor target, trap, skeet, or shooting range that the Firearm Safety Committee has inspected and approved in writing;

(2) in a private basement or cellar target range;

(3) when necessary to protect life or property;

(4) to kill a dangerous animal;

(5) for discharge of blank cartridges in musical and theatrical performances, parades, or sporting events;

(6) for salutes by firing squads at military funerals; or

(7) under a deer damage control permit issued by the Maryland Department of Natural Resources. (1981 L.M.C., ch. 42, § 1; CY 1991 L.M.C., ch. 21, § 1; 1997 L.M.C., ch. 14, §1; 2001 L.M.C., ch.11, § 1; 2005 L.M.C., ch. 24, § 1; 2007 L.M.C., ch. 21, § 1.)

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Why do they call out ammo larger than .25 caliber? Are they saying that you can only hunt with ammo larger than .25 caliber? Does this mean that you can't hunt in MoCo County with .223? Or, does it mean that I should go buy a Beretta Tomcat for concealed carry in MoCo?

Hmm, Guess I gotta do some hunting for Baltimore county.

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Here is the whole section. Note the reference to has been licensed by the state in 57-10 and 57-11 which expressly exempts from its coverage permit holders. Note as well that the bar in 57-10 applies to "any gun designed to use explosive
ammunition' Now, I assume that most handguns are not designed to use "explosive ammunition" But please correct me if I am wrong...

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I remember late 70's, early 80's, there were .357 SWC on sale tipped with small pistol primers. I know they were at MSAR when they were inside the beltway, and I think On Target sold them back then also.

Was that considered "explosive ammunition" ?

Tim

Walkersville, MD

http://www.walkersville-md.com/Town Code/2012 Town Code.pdf

Chapter 33

HUNTING AND FIREARMS

§ 33-1. Hunting of Game.
§ 33-2. Discharge of Firearm or Weapon; Carrying of Loaded Weapon.
§ 33-3. Exemptions.
§ 33-4. Seizure of Weapons Used in Violation.
§ 33-5. Intent and Purpose.
§ 33-6. Violations and Penalties.

[HISTORY: Adopted by the Burgess and Commissioners of the Town of
Walkersville 5-21-75. Amendments noted where applicable.]

§ 33-1. Hunting of Game.
A. It shall be unlawful for any person to hunt for, catch, take, wound or
kill game of any kind through the use of a pistol, revolver, bow and
arrow, slingshot, shotgun, gun or any firearm or weapon from which
a shot or other object is discharged within the Town of Walkersville
or on town-owned property outside of town limits.
B. The term “game,” as used in this chapter, shall mean and include all
wild birds and wild animals, whether protected or unprotected under
the game laws of the state, found in a wild state.

§ 33-2. Discharge of Firearm or Weapon; Carrying of Loaded Weapon.
A. It shall be unlawful to discharge a rifle, air rifle or air gun of any kind
and description which impels with force a pellet of any kind or to
discharge a bow and arrow, slingshot, shotgun, gun or any firearm or
weapon from which a shot or other object is discharged within the
Town of Walkersville or on town-owned property outside of town
limits.
B. It shall be unlawful to carry, within the boundaries of the Town of
Walkersville or on town-owned property outside of town limits, a gun
loaded with shell or cartridge.
[Added 4-14-82].

§ 33-3. Exemptions.
The provisions of this chapter shall not apply to:
A. Properly authorized law enforcement officers or town employees
acting in their line of duty or in training. [Ordinance 98-15, adopted 9-
9-98]

§33 WALKERSVILLE CODE §33
-3302-
B. The members of duly organized gun, rifle or archery clubs, or their
bona fide guests, or of military organizations of the United States or
Maryland government, upon the ranges of such clubs or
organizations, under the control and supervision of the duly
constituted officers of such clubs and organizations. [Amended 9-
12-01 by Ord. 2001-07]
C. The patrons of commercial ranges.
D. Those persons in possession of permits issued by the town for
hunting on town-owned property outside of town limits.
E. Agriculturally zoned land. [Added 3-24-79].
F. The use of blank firing weapons and devices for the purposes of reenactment
activities, military funeral details, or other activities, which
have been authorized by the Burgess and Commissioners of the
Town of Walkersville. [Added 9-12-01 by Ord. 2001-07]
G. The carrying of weapons under the provisions of the State of
Maryland Handgun Permit. [Added 9-12-01 by Ord. 2001-07]
H. Authorized State of Maryland Hunter Safety, Firearms Safety, or Bow
Safety courses or instruction as sponsored by the Department of
Natural Resources. [Added 9-12-01 by Ord. 2001-07]

§ 33-4. Seizure of Weapons Used in Violation.
Authorized enforcing agents are hereby authorized to seize and retain any rifle,
air rifle or air gun of any description, or ammunition or pellets for the same, or
any bow and arrows, slingshots, shotguns, guns or any firearm or weapon from
which a shot or other object is discharged which shall be used, discharged or
possessed within the town or on town-owned property outside of town limits in
violation of this chapter.

§ 33-5. Intent and Purpose.
It is the intent and purpose of this chapter that the killing of game or vermin of
any kind through the use of a rifle, air rifle, air fun or bow and arrow, slingshot,
shotgun, gun or any firearm or weapon from which a shot or other object is
discharged shall be unlawful.

§ 33-6. Violations and Penalties.
Any person violating any of the provisions of this chapter shall, upon conviction,
be guilty of a misdemeanor and shall be punished as provided in the Charter of
the Town of Walkersville.1

Inigoes said:

After reading the AG's response to the questions we put forth for long gun carry. The AG's office mentioned any firearms laws that were enacted before 1/1/1985 are not preempted by State law.

What laws/ordinances by local governments exist today, that were enacted before 1/1/1985?

A resource that might have your local area:
http://www.municode.com/library/ClientListing.aspx?stateID=20

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Does this make sense to anyone?. I mean the idea that prior code is still good..

It would seem to violate the clear legislative intent .... to prevent a Hogpoge of regulations .....


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Brooklyn said:

Does this make sense to anyone?. I mean the idea that prior code is still good..

It would seem to violate the clear legislative intent .... to prevent a Hogpoge of regulations .....


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It's called grandfathering, which is a double edged sword