NICS checks coming back "delayed"

Doctor_M · Oct 5, 2015

Seems to be getting worse. Purchased a long gun on Friday from one of our IPs and it was marked as delayed... went back to the shop Saturday... still delayed. Will see what happens today.

I don't mind waiting an extra 10 or 15 mins if something is flagged for further review, but when it turns a cash and carry purchase into a 3 or 5 day defacto waiting period... that just gets me mad. I hope that this isn't the start of a bad trend.

rseymorejr · Oct 5, 2015

A1Uniform said:
I have found that since we started to use eCheck as opposed to phoning in, we seem to get fewer "Delay" responses.

I don't know if it is the online system or our recent clientele, but there is a marked difference.

Sounds like they may be trying to steer more dealers into using the E-Check system, cuts down on overhead for them.

tomgreco · Oct 5, 2015

cantstop said:
triple digits in my NICS checks is probably a new "terrorist" profiling being done in Marylandistan. Considering anyone with over 1,000 rounds of ammo is considered a threat , someone with 100 guns must be on all sorts of tin foil lists. <This crap with "delayed" NICS approvals really pisses me off...>

Over 1000 rounds gets me on ANOTHER list? ugh.

BigDaddy · Oct 5, 2015

Tim of Military Arms Channel had this problem, personally. He tells you what to do about it.

Streetgang · Oct 5, 2015

I wonder if the system is being overworked. I say this because everyone who comes onboard DoD installations is getting a NICS check before they are issued a pass. I deal with our pass office and it's become quite a burden both for our guests and the pass office. I would imagine the FBI gives DoD head of the line over FFL's (be that right or wrong.)

Inigoes · Oct 5, 2015

They are two different animals

DoD = Network Information Center

FFL = National Instant Check System

j_h_smith · Oct 5, 2015

Doctor_M said:
Seems to be getting worse. Purchased a long gun on Friday from one of our IPs and it was marked as delayed... went back to the shop Saturday... still delayed. Will see what happens today.

I don't mind waiting an extra 10 or 15 mins if something is flagged for further review, but when it turns a cash and carry purchase into a 3 or 5 day defacto waiting period... that just gets me mad. I hope that this isn't the start of a bad trend.

I've experienced the exact opposite recently. I bought a firearm from John Lowe and he called it in, and of course with a name like James Smith, I was delayed. However, he was able to complete the transaction within 2 minutes. Gotta be one of the fastest times I've had being approved.

FFBWMD · Oct 5, 2015

I had 3 of them this weekend :sad20:

rseymorejr · Oct 5, 2015

The last time I had something transferred in the hold time was extremely long. And then I was put off for further review and finally OK'd after about 15 minutes.

Doctor_M · Oct 6, 2015

Got a call last night that mine cleared (FBI/NICS gives itself three business days to clear up delays, so technically it was just one... although it was three calendar days). Will pick up the new toy this evening... but will be interesting to see if this happens again on my next purchase.

plinkerton · Oct 6, 2015

I have a prohibited cousin in New Jersey same first and last name, same middle initial. If I use my SS# I sail through, if not I get delayed.

Doctor_M · Oct 6, 2015

I've balked in the past at using my SSN, just because I don't want to put it on anything that isn't necessary... but I actually used it this time. Apparently it didn't help.

WeaponsCollector · Oct 6, 2015

Michael Bloomturd's wish list from a few years back. Some of these are already being done....
- Ban "default proceed" sales of guns without due process to anyone placed on hold or delayed during a NICS background check.
- Ban the sale of guns without due process to millions of Americans on secret government "watch lists".
- Undercover criminal enforcement operations at gun shows.
- Ban importation of "non sporting" (semi automatic) rifles, shotguns, and handguns.
- Require REAL-ID(microchip) identification AKA gun licensing and registration for all gun buyers...in addition to national REAL-ID state issued ID cards.
- Maintain NICS records for 20 years.
- Increase funding to generate tips from the community on illegal guns.
- If someone fails a NICS background check for whatever reason, make it a priority for local state and national law enforcement to investigate and prosecute.
SOURCE:
"A Blueprint for Federal Action on Illegal Guns: Regulation, Enforcement, and Best Practices to Combat Illegal Gun Trafficking"
By Michael Bloomberg's group "Mayors Against Illegal Guns"
August 2009

Reptile · Oct 6, 2015

The explanation may be as simple as the fact that the bureaucracy has taken hits for having incomplete data and allowing prohibited people to "legally" purchase a firearm. They are giving the appearance of doing their due diligence by digging deeper into what is still an incomplete data base. It's all eyewash of course, but for liberals it's the intention that counts.

j_h_smith · Oct 6, 2015

Doctor_M said:
I've balked in the past at using my SSN, just because I don't want to put it on anything that isn't necessary... but I actually used it this time. Apparently it didn't help.

I couldn't imagine how long of a wait I would have if I didn't use my SS#. Wouldn't want to try it.

Turtle Man · Nov 6, 2015

Doctor_M said:
Seems to be getting worse. Purchased a long gun on Friday from one of our IPs and it was marked as delayed... went back to the shop Saturday... still delayed. Will see what happens today.

I don't mind waiting an extra 10 or 15 mins if something is flagged for further review, but when it turns a cash and carry purchase into a 3 or 5 day defacto waiting period... that just gets me mad. I hope that this isn't the start of a bad trend.

The same thing happened to me just tonight when purchasing a long gun. Filled out the NICS form including my SSN and chatted with the owner's wife while it was called in. Next thing I know, "sorry, your background check has been delayed for 7 days". SEVEN days? What the hell?

swinokur · Nov 7, 2015

NICS has 3 days to render a decision. After that the firearm may be released to the buyer.

Alea Jacta Est · Nov 7, 2015

mossy33oak said:
I was thinking the same thing. With hearing in the news how they're going after people they consider "preppers" I'm wondering if this isn't one of the triggers that flags them (pun intended)

What, exactly, does "hearing they're going after preppers..." mean.

protegeV · Nov 7, 2015

j_h_smith said:
I couldn't imagine how long of a wait I would have if I didn't use my SS#. Wouldn't want to try it.

lol, yep.

I don't know that I have a common name, especially if you include the suffix, but Iv'e always included my ssn and never had an issue with a nics call.

BradyWarrior · Nov 7, 2015

It's also important to note that NICS has never in its history been as busy as it has for the last six months. My assumption is that if a record requires any level of human involvement the proceed notice will be delayed...not for 15 minutes or 1/2 an hour...but for a day or two. Combine the record transaction volume with increased political scrutiny of NICS, and you are guaranteed to have some delays.

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