- Jan 30, 2013
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No More Spent Shell Casing
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Im happy with the victory no matter how small some may see it. Steps in the right direction at least!
Nothing from the administration was "traded" for this. As for "why now?" Several reason to include the economic ones that were creeping up quickly (new warehouse need, 4 techs assigned to this for manual input and not to something else, plus a few others).
They are all, already cataloged, and have been since day one. Hence why the MSP was running out of storage space.
Blanket written testimony at both hearings against repealing the law.
ShallNotInfringe
Lil Firecracker
- Feb 17, 2013
- 8,554
Naturally. Frosh never saw a gun control law he didn't like.
This is a milestone in Maryland. Can anyone else think of a gun control/ harassment law in Maryland that has ever been done away with?
Ever?
For once we aren't congratulating ourselves for only losing a little ground we are finally making a tiny step forward.
Ever?
For once we aren't congratulating ourselves for only losing a little ground we are finally making a tiny step forward.
Let's get the brass from all the casings that 'infringed' on our rights, melt it down...
Then cast little Liberty Bell's (sell them to our friends and supporters), and next time we rally in Annapolis, we let our little Liberty bells ring!
Then cast little Liberty Bell's (sell them to our friends and supporters), and next time we rally in Annapolis, we let our little Liberty bells ring!
Paging dblas...come out ... come out... where ever you are...
I'm finally up for air, after a long and enjoyable night in Annapolis celebrating Sine Die and SB736. Sorry, no clue at this point who the two were but working on it.
Jack Ryan
Ultimate Member
Great news!
A reversal of a BS Maryland gun law...one that turned my first handgun into a six week ordeal.
This is the first good thing to happen to us Maryland firearms owners in a long time...I hope it is followed by more reversals of bad gun laws in Maryland.
The Free State is now a little more free!
A reversal of a BS Maryland gun law...one that turned my first handgun into a six week ordeal.
This is the first good thing to happen to us Maryland firearms owners in a long time...I hope it is followed by more reversals of bad gun laws in Maryland.
The Free State is now a little more free!
Jack Ryan
Ultimate Member
Next, torpedo the HQL
ShallNotInfringe
Lil Firecracker
- Feb 17, 2013
- 8,554
Awesome idea!
Biggfoot44
Ultimate Member
- Aug 2, 2009
- 33,252
Ok, I can readily believe that the Sponsering Senator didn't personally make any deals.
And I could be pleasantly surprised if the Bill had passed out of Committee before Crossover Day , and ultimately pass by a semi-normal margin. BUT ....
Going thru Rules Committee , having second and third readers on same day , and passing by unamious and near unamious votes doesn't happen accidently or spontainously.
Unamiois Votes don't happen without the nod of the Democratic Machine. Nor Rules Committee , nor expedited Floor Vote. If the Mike & Mike Club were simply acting in the best intrests of Maryland , SB736 would have cleared Committee before Crossover Day.
*Somthing* changed recently. It is obvious one party was the Dem Machine. Even if they acted independently , they at least had to be involved. The $64 questions which other party(s) were involved , and which horse(s) were traded.
I am not quite paranoid enough to assume it had to be a swap between pro 2A and anti 2A , but it had to be Somthing. Not directly related necessarily , but Somthing.
And I could be pleasantly surprised if the Bill had passed out of Committee before Crossover Day , and ultimately pass by a semi-normal margin. BUT ....
Going thru Rules Committee , having second and third readers on same day , and passing by unamious and near unamious votes doesn't happen accidently or spontainously.
Unamiois Votes don't happen without the nod of the Democratic Machine. Nor Rules Committee , nor expedited Floor Vote. If the Mike & Mike Club were simply acting in the best intrests of Maryland , SB736 would have cleared Committee before Crossover Day.
*Somthing* changed recently. It is obvious one party was the Dem Machine. Even if they acted independently , they at least had to be involved. The $64 questions which other party(s) were involved , and which horse(s) were traded.
I am not quite paranoid enough to assume it had to be a swap between pro 2A and anti 2A , but it had to be Somthing. Not directly related necessarily , but Somthing.
Nothing from the administration? What about traded by either Republican minority members (not that the Mikes care for them) or by MSI/NRA lobbying people?
As many of us have noted, bills don't normally move at this speed never mind pro 2A bills. In fact, I am confident in saying it has never happened since gun control took off under Gov. Schaefer.
The Democrats didn't get spontaneously concerned with the chump change going to this program. They've never met a new tax and spend program they didn't like.
- Jan 30, 2013
- 34,099
IIRC, when FSA2013 was being debated, this was offered as an amendment. As with all the amendments, the MGA was under orders from O'Mao to pass it without amendments. That led not just to Vallario's re-vote and quashing of an amendment that accidentally passed in his Committee, but also Dumais's robotic, rote opposition to this common sense one that she had no valid argument to make. It went down anyway under O'Mao orders, and I expect that a transcript of proceedings on the House floor will expose what a cooked "debate" and legislative sham it was.
This year, standing on its own without O'Mao to crack heads and the other guy on the Senate side, the monolithic front fractured.
This year, standing on its own without O'Mao to crack heads and the other guy on the Senate side, the monolithic front fractured.
Mr H
Banana'd
I was a certainly wondering whether part 1 above would happen, and if so, then part 2 would be the next question.
I'm just happy with the possibility of the change, but my gut tells me that MSP/GA simply wanted this off their plates in the future.
Mr H
Banana'd
Just checked the MGA website... still no detail on the House vote.
Makes me wonder if this isn't a viable form of attack for the future. Point to something that costs money that the MSP doesn't want to do, and then hammer it through using the budget negotiations. Clearly, this strategy is not going to get rid of all of the 2A infringements in MD, but at least it seems like it works, which is more than I can say for some previous things the community has done.
Things that cost money:
1. Handgun roster - they've got a staff member devoted to this, not to mention all of the meeting overhead and shipping
2. 77rs on people already have HQLs - seriously, you want $10 in tax on a handgun, just make it a tax and spare us the stupid wait
- Jan 30, 2013
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Yes, but in this case it should have been a slam dunk years ago if rationality played a role: All cost, and no benefit to MD taxpayers. Only after the state's broken financial back was up against the wall, the Great Wall of O'Mao, did they relent.
The people who pushed to make this happen should take a bow, and definitely use the same methods when the opportunity arises again.
Meanwhile, some political hay should be made over the fact that the Dems insisted that this ridiculous, money wasting scheme stay in effect as long as they did. How many millions were flushed down the drain over the life of the shell casing requirement?
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