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DadOSix · Nov 6, 2015

Just received my permit for business related activities.

90 days door to door - from receipt at handgun unit to my address.

Valid only while conducting business as owner of _____. Md Only. Not valid where firearms are prohibited.

navycraig · Nov 19, 2015

Received this just moments ago:

Mr. XXXX

A review of your handgun permit application #438-81173A by the Maryland State Police Licensing Division Handgun Permit Unit revealed that additional information is required as follows:

1. Evidence is needed to support apprehended fear (i.e.- copies of police reports for assaults, threats, harassments, or stalking that pertain to you).

If the documentation is not received in this office by December 19, 2015, your application will be disapproved.

Please return a copy of this email and the requested documentation to the Handgun Permit Unit at 1111 Reisterstown Rd., Pikesville, MD 21208. If you have further questions contact me via email.

protegeV · Nov 19, 2015

PJDiesel · Nov 19, 2015

Now what.

navycraig · Nov 19, 2015

PJDiesel said:
Now what.

I'll wait for my letter and go before the board. I feel that I provided enough justification to support. We'll see what the board does with it.

USAFRavenR6 · Nov 19, 2015

I agree with the approach. We all know the MSP was going to deny some of us for the reasoning we applied with. Who cares? If anything you are in line for the board sooner and will not need to wait the additional 2 months for the MSP to deny. If anything, they did you a favor.

navycraig · Nov 19, 2015

USAFRavenR6 said:
I agree with the approach. We all know the MSP was going to deny some of us for the reasoning we applied with. Who cares? If anything you are in line for the board sooner and will not need to wait the additional 2 months for the MSP to deny. If anything, they did you a favor.

Please explain. I still have to receive my "official" denial letter before requesting a hearing with the board, right? All I have so far is an email saying I will be denied if I don't provide more stuff.

Maybe what you're suggesting is that when that letter is received, I skip the request for review by MSP and just go straight to the board. Is that what cuts the 2 months out?

PJDiesel · Nov 19, 2015

No, I'd think you still need their official disposition on it. I'm not sure I'd expect anything (at all) to happen in 2 months time.

montoya32 · Nov 19, 2015

navycraig said:
Please explain. I still have to receive my "official" denial letter before requesting a hearing with the board, right? All I have so far is an email saying I will be denied if I don't provide more stuff.

Maybe what you're suggesting is that when that letter is received, I skip the request for review by MSP and just go straight to the board. Is that what cuts the 2 months out?

Once the denial letter is received, you can request an informal review with the MSP and if that does not go your way, you can go to the HPRB. Who is the trooper handling your app? If you decide to go the informal route, ask for someone who has not already denied you. Ask for a trooper of equivalent or greater rank than the trooper who denied you. And record your informal review. You have to notify the trooper you are recording, but you are allowed to record it.

babalou · Nov 19, 2015

LMFAO

sundazes said:
I thought he was Idontgivea's uncle....

Awesome. heh heh heh

navycraig · Nov 19, 2015

montoya32 said:
Once the denial letter is received, you can request an informal review with the MSP and if that does not go your way, you can go to the HPRB. Who is the trooper handling your app? If you decide to go the informal route, ask for someone who has not already denied you. Ask for a trooper of equivalent or greater rank than the trooper who denied you. And record your informal review. You have to notify the trooper you are recording, but you are allowed to record it.

Trooper Laziuck.

10/4. Thanks. I doubt that I'd have much luck with the informal review so I may as well shoot for the moon and go to the HPRB.

PJDiesel · Nov 19, 2015

navycraig said:
Trooper Laziuck.

10/4. Thanks. I doubt that I'd have much luck with the informal review so I may as well shoot for the moon and go to the HPRB.

I'd strongly recommend you speak with MR. McCauley to see if maybe he has any ideas that can help you.

And, I'd look here too:http://www.mdshooters.com/showpost.php?p=4077526&postcount=307

The nuts and bolts of it address your specific request, whether or not it's binding and can be used as precedent in front of the board, I don't know.

Also, I'm not a lawyer, and... NOT giving legal advice. :thumbsup:

navycraig · Nov 19, 2015

PJDiesel said:
I'd strongly recommend you speak with MR. McCauley to see if maybe he has any ideas that can help you.

And, I'd look here too:http://www.mdshooters.com/showpost.php?p=4077526&postcount=307

The nuts and bolts of it address your specific request, whether or not it's binding and can be used as precedent in front of the board, I don't know.

Also, I'm not a lawyer, and... NOT giving legal advice.

The way I read that, they are being ordered to accept the applicant's verbal statement/testimony that he has threats...not requiring him to provide police reports to support same.

Trouble for me is, I don't have threats, documented or otherwise.

PJDiesel · Nov 19, 2015

navycraig said:
The way I read that, they are being ordered to accept the applicant's verbal statement/testimony that he has threats...not requiring him to provide police reports to support same.

Trouble for me is, I don't have threats, documented or otherwise.

Where you at in about an hour? I'll fuggin threaten you. :shrug:

I think you're right, I got excited and scrolled over it too fast. In any event, a quick message to Jack may be worthwhile.

navycraig · Nov 19, 2015

PJDiesel said:
Where you at in about an hour? I'll fuggin threaten you.

I think you're right, I got excited and scrolled over it too fast. In any event, a quick message to Jack may be worthwhile.

Yep, already sent a note to Jack. I'm sure he's a very busy man, but I will anxiously await his reply.

PJDiesel · Nov 19, 2015

navycraig said:
Yep, already sent a note to Jack. I'm sure he's a very busy man, but I will anxiously await his reply.

You're going to find out very quickly he's a smart and compassionate individual. :thumbsup:

Schipperke · Nov 19, 2015

If you need a second to threaten you, I'll oblige. Two separate threats have gotta work.

navycraig · Nov 19, 2015

PJDiesel said:
Where you at in about an hour? I'll fuggin threaten you.

I think you're right, I got excited and scrolled over it too fast. In any event, a quick message to Jack may be worthwhile.

Schipperke said:
If you need a second to threaten you, I'll oblige. Two separate threats have gotta work.

I guess these could count as "documented" threats. I'm all set. :lol2:

PJDiesel · Nov 19, 2015

Quit talking about it or we'll really crank up the threats.

There, that ought to do it.

protegeV · Nov 19, 2015

navycraig said:
I guess these could count as "documented" threats. I'm all set.

there ya go, all set!

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