KimuraFTW
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Wait, so you can still buy lowers and legally build them into rifles post Oct. 1st? Does that mean I can still complete an 80% lower to build into a pistol at this point or is that still a no-no?
Question about AR pistol
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Wait, so you can still buy lowers and legally build them into rifles post Oct. 1st? Does that mean I can still complete an 80% lower to build into a pistol at this point or is that still a no-no?
Hawkeye
The Leatherstocking
- Jan 29, 2009
- 3,971
Yes.
Lowers are legal "again" according to MSP. Although they will make you fill out a 77R to buy one, you do not need an HQL. If you buy a lower that is transferred to you as "O" you can build it into either a pistol or an HBAR rifle legally.
If you build it into a pistol FIRST you can later change it to a rifle (HBAR ONLY for post Oct 1 lowers) and back to a pistol.
If you build it as a rifle FIRST it is a rifle FOREVER and must stay a rifle. (Again, HBAR ONLY for post Oct 1 lowers.)
Same applies to an 80% that you finish yourself, except obviously no 77R. You may build it into any legal configuration (ie a pistol or an HBAR rifle) and if you build it as a pistol first you may later convert it back and forth from pistol to rifle, but if you build it a rifle first it must stay a rifle.
Lowers are legal "again" according to MSP. Although they will make you fill out a 77R to buy one, you do not need an HQL. If you buy a lower that is transferred to you as "O" you can build it into either a pistol or an HBAR rifle legally.
If you build it into a pistol FIRST you can later change it to a rifle (HBAR ONLY for post Oct 1 lowers) and back to a pistol.
If you build it as a rifle FIRST it is a rifle FOREVER and must stay a rifle. (Again, HBAR ONLY for post Oct 1 lowers.)
Same applies to an 80% that you finish yourself, except obviously no 77R. You may build it into any legal configuration (ie a pistol or an HBAR rifle) and if you build it as a pistol first you may later convert it back and forth from pistol to rifle, but if you build it a rifle first it must stay a rifle.
- Feb 4, 2013
- 28,175
You can also do an SBR.
Build pistol, apply for tax stamp, get tax stamp, add shoulder stock, SBR.
Build pistol, apply for tax stamp, get tax stamp, add shoulder stock, SBR.
Markp
Ultimate Member
- Dec 22, 2008
- 9,392
Who said that lowers would be legal... oh, that's right, I did.
dfens42
Publius
I was familiar with the angled foregrip part too. So silly, but whatever right?
Trumpet
SCSC/NRA life member. MSI member
- Oct 29, 2005
- 2,083
No whistling needed.So theoretically, one could build a "pistol" with a Sig brace and a 16" upper?
100% legal (as of today).
- Feb 4, 2013
- 28,175
So theoretically, one could build a "pistol" with a Sig brace and a 16" upper?
Yes. But why?
If you are going to 16" barrel, you can put a stock on it.
Calengor
wishes he were spike
If you don't want to use a heavy barreled upper, I suppose this is an option. But since you can have pretty much any barrel length at that point, I'm not sure why you'd go with 16".
If you put a stock on it then it becomes an AR-15 rifle which is banned in Maryland. Buying a lower requires a 77R and if it ever found out you put a pencil barrel on it and a stock - you're gonna have a bad time.
- Feb 4, 2013
- 28,175
But why put a 16" barrel on it to make a pistol?
What does that accomplish other than a HUGE ungainly pistol?
Why not put a 7.5", 10.5", or even a 14.5" barrel on it.
What does that accomplish other than a HUGE ungainly pistol?
Why not put a 7.5", 10.5", or even a 14.5" barrel on it.
Trumpet
SCSC/NRA life member. MSI member
- Oct 29, 2005
- 2,083
combine it with a "not a stock"
- Feb 4, 2013
- 28,175
And considering that Form 1 approvals are coming back as quick as 22 days, no reason to not just SBR the thing.
Trumpet
SCSC/NRA life member. MSI member
- Oct 29, 2005
- 2,083
True, but not everyone wants to do the paperwork or pay $200.
- Feb 4, 2013
- 28,175
Fill out one piece of paper every year for the places you normally go.
And you can always change to a 16" or longer upper if you take it somewhere.
No paperwork these days, it is online.
$200 is peanuts compared to the price of the rifles.
But still, a 16" barrel "pistol" makes NO sense.
And you can always change to a 16" or longer upper if you take it somewhere.
No paperwork these days, it is online.
$200 is peanuts compared to the price of the rifles.
But still, a 16" barrel "pistol" makes NO sense.
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