Women Applying for More Carry Permits in MD

redeemed.man · Aug 13, 2014

Contrary to what is being posted in this thread women are not getting handgun permits at any rate higher than men for personal protection. Personal protection as G&S results in very few permits in MD for men or women. MSP is not showing favortism to women, that is BS. MSP based on their G&S guidelines doesn't give a sh!t about anyone's personal safety when it comes to handgun permit issuance. Well, except for O'Malley cronies and connected DemocRATS.

Brooklyn · Aug 13, 2014

Haides said:
Now where is that "Out of Context" thread?

In all seriousness, reading that article kept bringing up images of that Everytown "ad" where they showed a woman being murdered by her crazy ex... And the things they're doing is what is CREATING that situation, but somehow we're the ones waging a "war on women" when we try to help. F'ing infuriating.

Stay calm. Reply "the real war is on men and the stats prove it."

What ever you do do not take the bait. They are trying to anger us.. don't let them.

Haides · Aug 13, 2014

boundlessdyad said:
Contrary to what is being posted in this thread women are not getting handgun permits at any rate higher than men for personal protection. Personal protection as G&S results in very few permits in MD for men or women. MSP is not showing favortism to women, that is BS. MSP based on their G&S guidelines doesn't give a sh!t about anyone's personal safety when it comes to handgun permit issuance. Well, except for O'Malley cronies and connected DemocRATS.

I got a totally different vibe from the article. To me, it sounded like "More women are applying, but they're being denied by MSP even when they have legitimate concerns."

Brooklyn said:
Stay calm. Reply "the real war is on men and the stats prove it."

What ever you do do not take the bait. They are trying to anger us.. don't let them.

I always say that concealed carry is far more beneficial to women than it is to men. Luckily most of the women I bother to spend time with aren't misandrist modern feminists anyway.

redeemed.man · Aug 13, 2014

Haides said:
I got a totally different vibe from the article. To me, it sounded like "More women are applying, but they're being denied by MSP even when they have legitimate concerns."

I always say that concealed carry is far more beneficial to women than it is to men. Luckily most of the women I bother to spend time with aren't misandrist modern feminists anyway.

Posters in the thread have made it sound like women are being issued permits for personal protection just because they are women. This is not the case at any kind of "high rate". I agree with you, the article says that women are applying more often just as another article claims Baltimore and PG residents are applying more. It certainly does not mean they are obtaining them. Applying is way different than obtaining.

whistlersmother · Aug 13, 2014

mdram said:
just claim your gay and afraid of being targeted by the anti gay crowd

Some might say the upcoming Bathroom bill could lead to CCW permit... :innocent0

fred333 · Aug 13, 2014

Brooklyn said:
Never underestimate the role of women in the D party. If women want something the D will provide... period.... they lose on the fem vote alone

I'm sorry, but women--whether they're genetically male or female--ARE today's democratic party.

Mark75H · Aug 13, 2014

boundlessdyad said:
Next to none unless they are business owners.

Or pharmacists - I know 2 with permits, just because they have keys to the pharmacy and safes

Brooklyn · Aug 13, 2014

fred333 said:
I'm sorry, but women--whether they're genetically male or female--ARE today's democratic party.

Which is why we can't afford to alienate them

You can refuse to bend over without insulting then.... and when you do ...they get a clue. . Slowly. There is no quick solution here

crowleycr · Aug 13, 2014

Some might say, "These laws are merely guidelines for the sheep. As an example, there is a dearth of people talking on their phones while driving. one can only imagine the arsenal they carry in their purse or trunk of the car. Even his excelency President 0bama obeys only the laws he likes, why should these womens be any different. Me? I couldn't possibly comment.

abean4187 · Aug 14, 2014

People seem to be confused by this article. Women are not getting carry permits just because they are women. They are getting denied just like everyone else. It just shows that our “May Issue” system is idiotic because even people with direct threats to their lives are not allowed to have permits. MD is basically saying that they only care about the rich when it comes to safety.

Also, all the people complaining about women supporting the Democratic party make me laugh. This is like the “nice guys” complaining about how women won’t sleep with them despite how “nice” they are. Get a clue, if the Republicans would drop the anti abortion/anti social rights rhetoric and at least attempt to throw women a bone maybe they wouldn’t get crushed in the general election by the women vote. I’m banking on the Libertarian wing taking over cause Republicans aren’t going to win on a conservative social agenda in any large elections, especially once the baby boomers die off.

Brooklyn · Aug 14, 2014

abean4187 said:
People seem to be confused by this article. Women are not getting carry permits just because they are women. They are getting denied just like everyone else. It just shows that our “May Issue” system is idiotic because even people with direct threats to their lives are not allowed to have permits. MD is basically saying that they only care about the rich when it comes to safety.

Also, all the people complaining about women supporting the Democratic party make me laugh. This is like the “nice guys” complaining about how women won’t sleep with them despite how “nice” they are. Get a clue, if the Republicans would drop the anti abortion/anti social rights rhetoric and at least attempt to throw women a bone maybe they wouldn’t get crushed in the general election by the women vote. I’m banking on the Libertarian wing taking over cause Republicans aren’t going to win on a conservative social agenda in any large elections, especially once the baby boomers die off.

Why should they buy them off? The clock is ticking... they are at risk not us.

The Republican s are not going to bail your asses out . You broke it you bought it.

Meanwhile allegations of domestic abuse can become G&S with a pen stoke, and will as soon as they think it expedient. Most likely not before they are sure the court will not strike down may issue. If that happens they will find it expedient to buy off women.

There is ample president in the law of self defense to support the claim that any women is facing greater than average threat if lethal violence in a domestic situation.

That most of the evidence supporting this claim is crap will not even slow it down.

This is the obvious counter move and it will again move the conversation from rights to " the state will protect women from men".

It one reason we need to be cautious about over playing this.

foxtrapper · Aug 14, 2014

abean4187 said:
People seem to be confused by this article. Women are not getting carry permits just because they are women. They are getting denied just like everyone else. It just shows that our “May Issue” system is idiotic because even people with direct threats to their lives are not allowed to have permits. MD is basically saying that they only care about the rich when it comes to safety.

Also, all the people complaining about women supporting the Democratic party make me laugh. This is like the “nice guys” complaining about how women won’t sleep with them despite how “nice” they are. Get a clue, if the Republicans would drop the anti abortion/anti social rights rhetoric and at least attempt to throw women a bone maybe they wouldn’t get crushed in the general election by the women vote. I’m banking on the Libertarian wing taking over cause Republicans aren’t going to win on a conservative social agenda in any large elections, especially once the baby boomers die off.

And if the democrats would just drop their anti gun BS. I told an old friend who was pushing Mizeur that I would like her just fine if she would 100% drop the anti gun BS. I find it odd that since most people actually don't even think about gun issues and don't support much in the way of gun control ( background checks are the basic thing supported, everything else they shrug their shoulders over), that the D would even be so gleeful in being as anti gun as they are. Most of the D voters don't even care about it. Same also goes for the R voters.

dblas · Aug 14, 2014

fightinbluhen51 said:
Equal protection...I like the ring of that...

The problem is, what qualifies as apprehended danger? It is not codified in the law or COMAR anywhere.

Then get together with 10 or so of your closest friends and their wives and submit a definition to MSP for inclusion into COMAR.

fightinbluhen51 · Aug 15, 2014

dblas said:
Then get together with 10 or so of your closest friends and their wives and submit a definition to MSP for inclusion into COMAR.

Herm....

IANAL. But would that even help? I saw someone talking about the COMAR "open adjustment/suggestion/comment" period that occurs annually. Would this even come close to helping a future suit? If the 2A exists outside the home (and even the CA4 admitted that it does, they just said it isn't core to the right), then should we not at least see equal protection and application of the law? How can you that when it isn't even codified?

rambling_one · Aug 15, 2014

dblas said:
Then get together with 10 or so of your closest friends and their wives and submit a definition to MSP for inclusion into COMAR.

Or, we could just use the transcripts of countless folks who articulated reasons at HPRB hearings only to have them rejected out of hand.

Results would likely be the same. :innocent0

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