What defines a Kalashnikov?

subnuke · Aug 18, 2014

If it has no interchangeable parts with an ak, but is styled to look like an ak, then it is not a kaloshnikov style rifle "in any format"?
Specifically the vz. 58
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vz._58

So this is legal in MD?

Threeband · Aug 18, 2014

Yes, legal.

To the untrained eye, it does bear a vague resemblance to an AK, but it is totally different. No parts interchange. Works differently. Much lighter.

Is a horse "styled to look like" a cow? Different beasts.

bbrown · Aug 18, 2014

Because internally it's completely different.

Vile Shadow · Aug 18, 2014

The VZ uses a short stroke system, is striker fired, and the mags won't work in an AK.

Naptown52 · Aug 18, 2014

Maybe its just me, but I feel like there could be some kind of assanine interpretation of it being a "copycat".

chale127 · Aug 18, 2014

Legal per the MSP website..

https://www.mdsp.org/Organization/S...ngandRegistration/Firearms/FirearmSearch.aspx

subnuke · Aug 18, 2014

Thanks!

dblas · Aug 18, 2014

Naptown52 said:
Maybe its just me, but I feel like there could be some kind of assanine interpretation of it being a "copy".

FIFY

NavyATFP · Aug 18, 2014

Does anyone think that by adding the AK name to this new AK14 rifle that it will never see its place in a Maryland gunshop? Seems like an interesting build, but if it isn't really an AK for all practical purposes wouldn't naming it an AK be detrimental to the idea of selling this in all 50 states? Maybe this is a shot across the bow to all states that list all AK in the regulated or banned lists?

http://www.parabellumarmament.com/AK14.html

TheBulge · Aug 18, 2014

That still looks like an AK to me. Its just dressed up in keymod.

NavyATFP said:
Does anyone think that by adding the AK name to this new AK14 rifle that it will never see its place in a Maryland gunshop? Seems like an interesting build, but if it isn't really an AK for all practical purposes wouldn't naming it an AK be detrimental to the idea of selling this in all 50 states? Maybe this is a shot across the bow to all states that list all AK in the regulated or banned lists?

http://www.parabellumarmament.com/AK14.html

Pinecone · Aug 18, 2014

Naptown52 said:
Maybe its just me, but I feel like there could be some kind of assanine interpretation of it being a "copycat".

We already know it is a semi auto, centerfire rifle.

Is it shorter than 29"? No -Not a copycat.

Does it have two of the following (folding stock, flash suppressor, or grenade launcher)? No - Not a copycat

Does it have a fixed magazine with a capacity of more then 10 rounds? No - Not a copycat.

Vile Shadow · Aug 18, 2014

Naptown52 said:
Maybe its just me, but I feel like there could be some kind of assanine interpretation of it being a "copycat".

Trust us when we say it's not.

Also, trust us when we recommend gittin' 'em while you can.

rob-cubed · Aug 18, 2014

What defines a Kalshnikov? Must be made of riveted iron and bathed in the blood of enemies of the Motherland!

Not a single part of an AKM/74 will fit on a VZ.58. They are completely different rifles in almost every way, aside from cosmetic similarities. If there was any doubt about legality, see post #6.

The general rule for copycats and "any other format" is method of operation and specifically, whether the rifles share parts.

BigDaddy · Aug 18, 2014

NavyATFP said:
Does anyone think that by adding the AK name to this new AK14 rifle that it will never see its place in a Maryland gunshop? Seems like an interesting build, but if it isn't really an AK for all practical purposes wouldn't naming it an AK be detrimental to the idea of selling this in all 50 states? Maybe this is a shot across the bow to all states that list all AK in the regulated or banned lists?
http://www.parabellumarmament.com/AK14.html

Their description is pretty convincing that it is an AK so even if they called it a Parabellem 870 it would still be an AK.

"The Parabellum AK-14 ..... Starting with superior quality AK’s, with a hammer-forged barrel and stamped receiver, we build-up the SOPMOD AK with our own AK accessories."
http://www.parabellumarms.com/product-p/pac-015001-01.htm

Pinecone · Aug 18, 2014

rob-cubed said:
What defines a Kalshnikov? Must be made of riveted iron and bathed in the blood of enemies of the Motherland!

Not a single part of an AKM/74 will fit on a VZ.58. They are completely different rifles in almost every way, aside from cosmetic similarities. If there was any doubt about legality, see post #6.

The general rule for copys and "any other format" is method of operation and specifically, whether the rifles share parts.

FTFY

Copycat is a specific term in the law, and has nothing to do with looking alike, functioning alike, or interchangeable parts.

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