My form 1 returned for corrections..

Leonidas583 · Jun 18, 2014

RRR! Well..here it goes..

Last August I finally decided to go the SBR Route with an Engage Lower and NOT through a trust. SO, I got my paperwork signed off by MSP and August 16 I mailed it out. It got returned to me becuase I wrote the wrong name on the check - my fault. So, of couse I immediately wrote a check and mailed it out. Since then I have been in time out..

Well, I see a letter in the mail today from the ATF! WOOHOO!!! When I open, its a nice little letter in the mail today stating, "enclosed application is being returned for the following reasons: 1. Applicant must complete a Certification of Compliance with 18 U.S.C. to certify citizenship. 2. provide verification that the transferee/applicant lawfully possessed, has a purchase order for, or completed an application to purchase the enclosed firearms before October 1, 2013.

Ok..You can CLEARLY see that my application with the serial number has a date of AUGUST on it. And Im guessing I should mail a copy of my MSP 77R-2?!?!

Great Googlie Mooglie!

Along · Jun 18, 2014

Hmm.. So the ATF has decided on that interpretation of Maryland law?

About the same time last year I submitted a form 1 doe an sbr on a trust through their eforms. Around February it was denied. (I followed the wrong online instructions on how to fill it out) Be happy you have the opportunity to make changes.

Sticky · Jun 19, 2014

Yep, apparently so... a buddy of mine just had his returned asking for proof of ownership as well and his was sent in prior to 10/1/13....

mtel · Jun 19, 2014

Hey could be worse. Some pre-10/1s were denied altogether before the ATF/MSP miscommunication was worked out (for the most part).

A cert and 77r, then you're up and running shortly. If your 77r is light/smudged/difficult to read, I'd try sending in the purchase receipt too.

ironpony · Jun 19, 2014

So every form 1 SBR app without proof of purchase, will be returned ... For the next 8 months. That should speed it up a little.

doofoo · Jun 19, 2014

ironpony said:
So every form 1 SBR app without proof of purchase, will be returned ... For the next 8 months. That should speed it up a little.

In MD only.. Probably won't even make a dent.

What's funny is I submitted a eForm 1 in March of this year and it was approved, no proof of purchase. I don't even have my 77r's for every one of my lowers. What a PITA

Leonidas583 · Jun 19, 2014

I tried to make a copy of the 77r and it came out like CRAP..I tried to call them and they stated that "Cook" is the one to talk to to see if I can send in a scanned copy. Hopefully he will call me back early in the day..

mtel · Jun 20, 2014

I can scan a 77r in color at high resolution at home but the fine details are still hard to read.

Might want to try Staples. The massive business-class scanner they have behind the counter gave me crystal clear documents. File size was ~4mb for four high-resolution, color pages.

Leonidas583 · Jun 20, 2014

mtel said:
I can scan a 77r in color at high resolution at home but the fine details are still hard to read.

Might want to try Staples. The massive business-class scanner they have behind the counter gave me crystal clear documents. File size was ~4mb for four high-resolution, color pages.

Might as well. I went to a regular copy place up here...

Wfilardo · Jun 20, 2014

I got the same letter yesterday asking for 77R copies for 3 SBR applications.

Leonidas583 · Jun 20, 2014

I got a better copy from Staples and just mailed it back to ATF..lesse how long from now it takes...

mtel · Jun 20, 2014

This is only what I've seen but if you're asked for corrections, that approval shouldn't take too long (2-3 weeks) after you've provided them. Best of luck.

Fordfan · Jun 20, 2014

Are you guys providing these for over or under 29"?

mtel · Jun 21, 2014

Seems around late May, proof of pre-10/1 ownership/purchase order/application started being requested by ATF for most post-10/1 apps, both over and under 29".

In the past couple weeks, ATF's interpretation of SB281 seems to have gotten better through MSP clarification but it still doesn't seem to handling every app quite the same way yet.

MSCSMD · Jun 21, 2014

yeah, like 6 of mine

mtel said:
Hey could be worse. Some pre-10/1s were denied altogether before the ATF/MSP miscommunication was worked out (for the most part).

A cert and 77r, then you're up and running shortly. If your 77r is light/smudged/difficult to read, I'd try sending in the purchase receipt too.

mtel · Jun 21, 2014

I saw that back in May. Looked like you were considering including a cover letter and the denied eForm apps with the resub; addressing it directly to your examiner for an expedite.

You definitely got a raw deal. Hopefully it works out.

Desertf0x9 · Jun 21, 2014

I just got a letter from the ATF regarding my paper individual form 1, unfortunately I'm away from home. I was wondering if I can call the ATF and directly send them my 77r and certificate of compliance?

Desertf0x9 · Jun 21, 2014

Just had my brother open the mail. It was approved!! Paper Form 1 individual SBR 30.5"
Individual Paper Form 1
MSP approval 7/30/2013
Sent out 8/10/2013
Check Cashed 10/6/2013
Approved June/13/2014

mtel · Jun 21, 2014

Good deal

Additional form 1 and 4 options should be available pretty soon too.

http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=154628

Leonidas583 · Jul 6, 2014

Just got mine back yesterday! Woohoo.. now.. on the lookout for a super tricon trigger and hopefully the BCM gunfighter stocks will be back in stock.

My form 1 returned for corrections..

The #1 community for Gun Owners of the Northeast

Member Benefits:

Active Member

Member

Beware of Dog

Ultimate Member

Member

Active Member

Active Member

Ultimate Member

Active Member

Active Member

Active Member

Ultimate Member

Active Member

Ultimate Member

Banned

Ultimate Member

Member

Member

Ultimate Member

Active Member

Users who are viewing this thread

Log in

Forum statistics