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BillC · Aug 21, 2014

Very nice! Thanks for doing this.

And, please keep us updated on any news or progress. Thanks!

netcentry · Aug 22, 2014

Great Argument. Im hoping to get my SBR application going again soon. Thank you.

Porsche · Aug 22, 2014

Thanks brother, I'm glad we have great people like you to help push back against those who try to infringe our rights!

Mr Bear · Aug 22, 2014

Well written Andy. Great job & a well deserved THANK YOU!!!!

Haides · Aug 22, 2014

The fact that this letter needed to be written at all really shows just how unbelievably stupid the people that write these laws are. Hope MSP doesn't decide to try and exacerbate their stupidity.

When MSP replies, will they do so just to Andy('s lawyer) or will they issue another "advisory?"

Dave · Aug 22, 2014

I just hope by the time I have the money to get the stamp and build it out, all of this will be straightened out. Again, thank you for your hard work Andy.

chesapeakeIRON · Aug 22, 2014

Great job!

chale127 · Aug 22, 2014

Great Job Andy and Thank you!

DC-W · Aug 22, 2014

You kick ass.

Landwarrior · Aug 22, 2014

Super Job! :party29:

Hopefully this will put everyone straight as to what SBRs and SBSs are, and what laws pertain to them.

Right_to_arm_bears · Aug 22, 2014

Great letter. Thank you for sending it. Please keep us updated.

Engage Armament · Aug 22, 2014

Haides said:
The fact that this letter needed to be written at all really shows just how unbelievably stupid the people that write these laws are. Hope MSP doesn't decide to try and exacerbate their stupidity.

When MSP replies, will they do so just to Andy('s lawyer) or will they issue another "advisory?"

They have acknowledged receipt so I'm hoping we will hear something shortly. If they listen to reason I assume we will receive a letter back and then an advisory will be issued. If they do not respond or respond in the negative, we will file suit. I will post any updates we receive or anything we hear.

The lowers and this is a start but there's also a ton of stuff that needs to be challenged. SB281 can be battled in big trials and it can also be battled on another front by chipping away at the most absurd parts of this law. Challenging on the administrative front can leave this thing toothless.

We will need help with this though at some point.

Haides · Aug 22, 2014

Thanks for doing what you do. Looking forward to any updates.

Jasonshooter · Aug 22, 2014

I don't fully understand what this is all about , could someone please explain with a little detail just what this is all about , I would appriciate it very much , I thank you in advance ..

anil · Aug 22, 2014

Jasonshooter said:
I don't fully understand what this is all about , could someone please explain with a little detail just what this is all about , I would appriciate it very much , I thank you in advance ..

Applications for Short Barrel Rifles are being rejected by ATF, based on MSP advisories, if they are actually short (under 29in. over all length).

It is a load of crap.

Engage is calling the MSP out on it.

OrbitalEllipses · Aug 22, 2014

It's beyond that anil. MSP is essentially treating the SBR has both a rifle and a handgun. That means it can't be a copy-cat (where the 29" overall length comes into play) AND it has to be on the Handgun Roster. Engage is pointing out that MSP can't have it both ways under Maryland law.

JPG · Aug 22, 2014

Engage Armament said:
They have acknowledged receipt so I'm hoping we will hear something shortly. If they listen to reason I assume we will receive a letter back and then an advisory will be issued. If they do not respond or respond in the negative, we will file suit. I will post any updates we receive or anything we hear.

The lowers and this is a start but there's also a ton of stuff that needs to be challenged. SB281 can be battled in big trials and it can also be battled on another front by chipping away at the most absurd parts of this law. Challenging on the administrative front can leave this thing toothless.

We will need help with this though at some point.

Hope it is quicker than their other response (Exhibit 2) where they responded May 15 to your email March 28. :sad20:

Immersion · Aug 23, 2014

Thank you so much, Andy! We're lucky to have you on our side.

Bertfish · Aug 23, 2014

Get 'em

fire_medic · Aug 23, 2014

Engage Armament said:
They have acknowledged receipt so I'm hoping we will hear something shortly. If they listen to reason I assume we will receive a letter back and then an advisory will be issued. If they do not respond or respond in the negative, we will file suit. I will post any updates we receive or anything we hear.

The lowers and this is a start but there's also a ton of stuff that needs to be challenged. SB281 can be battled in big trials and it can also be battled on another front by chipping away at the most absurd parts of this law. Challenging on the administrative front can leave this thing toothless.

We will need help with this though at some point.

Andy if this goes to suit is a fund set up to help with legal fees? Let me know here or IM. I will contribute.

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