Obama & ATF Now Demand Race of Gun Buyers

CypherPunk · Sep 17, 2014

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/sep/16/obama-white-house-forcing-new-gun-buyers-to-declar/

woodstock · Sep 17, 2014

if i remember correctly, i have always had to indicate my race when purchasing a regulated firearm.

bkuether · Sep 17, 2014

In the months leading up to the 2016 election, black and hispanic voters will be told that the Tea Party Crackers are gettin' themselves armed for civil war. Likely the message will be, they want to enslave you again! Vote for "our peaceful women!".

They will use this so called data as their "truth".

Put it in the red book.

Vile Shadow · Sep 17, 2014

woodstock said:
if i remember correctly, i have always had to indicate my race when purchasing a regulated firearm.

It's also on the 4473. I'm both "White" and "not Hispanic or Latino". :rolleyes:

highwayheat · Sep 17, 2014

I should just start checking other since there are no blocks for European American.

TxAggie · Sep 17, 2014

highwayheat said:
I should just start checking other since there are no blocks for American.

FIFY

Doctor_M · Sep 17, 2014

I'm going to mess with them next purchase.... I just looked and yep, I'm definitely not white (very few people in the world are).... I run about a 15 on the Von Luschan chromatic scale or just between 3 (medium white) and 4 (olive) on the Fitzpatrick scale. If they want data, I'll give them data. Jacka$$es.

fscwi · Sep 17, 2014

That's what I did on my census form this year, selected other and wrote in American.

highwayheat said:
I should just start checking other since there are no blocks for European American.

pbharvey · Sep 17, 2014

If they're going to ask for sex, height, weight, hair color, and eye color, they should ask for race. I thought they always did anyway. I would like a white or Caucasian block to check though instead of a non-Hispanic white choice. That's like asking me what I'm not.

PJDiesel · Sep 17, 2014

Don't see the big issue here.....

Kman · Sep 17, 2014

Same ole stuff.

Progressive types scream ignore race and always look to define and divide by race. :sad20:

krucam · Sep 17, 2014

The .gov started a couple years back adding a 2nd ethnicity question on many forms. Hispanic, Y or N.

Mr H · Sep 17, 2014

highwayheat said:
I should just start checking other since there are no blocks for European American.

I like this.

FrankZ · Sep 17, 2014

This country will not solve its race problems until the government stops forcing new ones on us.

aray · Sep 17, 2014

On most government forms that ask for race I usually put down "human". 4473 is about the only exception to that rule.

john_bud · Sep 17, 2014

Sling Blade said:
It's also on the 4473. I'm both "White" and "not Hispanic or Latino".

I took a dna test that showed approximately 36,000 years ago my ancestors left asia. Am I Asian? The same test showed that approximately 55,000 years ago my ancestors left africa. Am I african? Is "race" determined by birth location of parents? Grandparents? Great grandparents? Greatgreat.... to what degree?

Is race determined by rate of angular curl or pigmentation of hair follicles? While grey now, my hair used to be darker than many "black" people's hair. It is also naturally curly. Light absorption of skin? In january or august? My skin is darker than some "black" people, especially popular entertainers too.

Is this person black or white? My skin is darker, my hair is curlier.

Or is it a decision or attitude?

Is there a definitive right / wrong answer?

In engineering, it's known you can't CONTROL something if you don't track, record and monitor it. Maybe it works for social engineering too?

Mr H · Sep 17, 2014

In engineering, it's known you can't CONTROL something if you don't track, record and monitor it. Maybe it works for social engineering too?

Absolutely... we see it to varying degrees wherever there is governmental influence.

traveller · Sep 17, 2014

They'll see how many black and latino guys own guns. I dont think there are that many collectors, but plenty who own one or two Glocks.

AssMan · Sep 17, 2014

Meh. I had assumed that it was for the NICS check. I don't really care if they know my race.

AssMan · Sep 17, 2014

I want to know why MD on the 77-R needs to know your occupation :rolleyes:

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