Handgun permit review letter...

yellowsled · Jul 28, 2014

So I was one of the people that got in after the ruling and was obviously initially disapproved. I formally requested the appeal. That was months ago!!

Today I get this letter....

OrbitalEllipses · Jul 28, 2014

Looks like a batch letter.

http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=156663

engine42410 · Jul 28, 2014

How are these people selected for the handgun review board and as a law abiding citizen can some if not all of them be removed from the handgun review board. What's dishearting is that if it was one of their family members in need of a maryland handgun permit someone on that review board would cut through all of the red tape and they would have it in one hour. When it comes to getting a handgun permit in maryland it's not what you right down on your application it's who you know. The state of maryland does not care about the law abiding citizen at all, they are only worried about job titles and how much money your business bring in WTF.

yellowsled · Jul 28, 2014

And that's part of why I am leaving this state in 4 years....

Jradack · Jul 28, 2014

My wife and I haven't yet applied for our permits.
Is it worth it now?

oldman12 · Jul 28, 2014

Alright sounds stupid ,but what's the difference between a handgun permit and an HQL ?

Shamr0ck · Jul 28, 2014

oldman12 said:
Alright sounds stupid ,but what's the difference between a handgun permit and an HQL ?

Not stupid - just hard to keep the idiocy straight

An HQL is an invention embedded in the FSA2013 which gives you permission to purchase a pistol (must be on the roster) after 01 Oct 13. The HQL requires you to be fingerprinted, pay a fee and go thru the infamous, super extra thorough MSP background check.

In spite of having an HQL, you must pass a background check and wait 8 days every time you want to purchase a pistol and after 10 years (I believe) you must pay a renewal fee.

A 'permit' is a license to carry concealed. There was a short time span between Judge Legg issuing the decision which invalidated the good and substantial standard the MSP uses to grant the license and the appellate court issuing a stay while the appeal was processed. Ultimately Judge Legg's decision was overturned.

There were 300 or so folks who applied for their permit in that time window who are now getting their denial letters.

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Shamr0ck

Jradack · Jul 28, 2014

oldman12 said:
Alright sounds stupid ,but what's the difference between a handgun permit and an HQL ?

I think I may share your confusion as well......

Jradack · Jul 28, 2014

Shamr0ck said:
Not stupid - just hard to keep the idiocy straight

An HQL is an invention embedded in the FSA2013 which gives you permission to purchase a pistol (must be on the roster) after 01 Oct 13. The HQL requires you to be fingerprinted, pay a fee and go thru the infamous, super extra thorough MSP background check.

In spite of having an HQL, you must pass a background check and wait 8 days every time you want to purchase a pistol and after 10 years (I believe) you must pay a renewal fee.

A 'permit' is a license to carry concealed. There was a short time span between Judge Legg issuing the decision which invalidated the good and substantial standard the MSP uses to grant the license and the appellate court issuing a stay while the appeal was processed. Ultimately Judge Legg's decision was overturned.

There were 300 or so folks who applied for their permit in that time window who are now getting their denial letters.

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Shamr0ck

Ah thanks for the clarification. I was starting to get nervously confused.

oldman12 · Jul 28, 2014

Shamr0ck said:
Not stupid - just hard to keep the idiocy straight

An HQL is an invention embedded in the FSA2013 which gives you permission to purchase a pistol (must be on the roster) after 01 Oct 13. The HQL requires you to be fingerprinted, pay a fee and go thru the infamous, super extra thorough MSP background check.

In spite of having an HQL, you must pass a background check and wait 8 days every time you want to purchase a pistol and after 10 years (I believe) you must pay a renewal fee.

A 'permit' is a license to carry concealed. There was a short time span between Judge Legg issuing the decision which invalidated the good and substantial standard the MSP uses to grant the license and the appellate court issuing a stay while the appeal was processed. Ultimately Judge Legg's decision was overturned.

There were 300 or so folks who applied for their permit in that time window who are now getting their denial letters.

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Shamr0ck

Ok I thought it had to do with carry . I have 2 pistols ,won't buy another till I move out of this ******** or Infringment law is over turned.Ill stick with cash and carry rifles.

MJD438 · Jul 28, 2014

Trust me, the HPRB hearing is just a sham effort anyway (BTDT as one of the pre-stay applicants). The pessimist in me speculates that the HPRB received direction/suggestion from someone to just shitcan the rest to stop the tide of people complaining that they were not meeting the 90 calendar day time limit stipulated in statute (my hearing was somewhere in the neighborhood of a year after my informal review and subsequent request for a hearing, and only got escalated after involving a delegate).

yellowsled · Jul 28, 2014

Shamr0ck said:
Not stupid - just hard to keep the idiocy straight

An HQL is an invention embedded in the FSA2013 which gives you permission to purchase a pistol (must be on the roster) after 01 Oct 13. The HQL requires you to be fingerprinted, pay a fee and go thru the infamous, super extra thorough MSP background check.

In spite of having an HQL, you must pass a background check and wait 8 days every time you want to purchase a pistol and after 10 years (I believe) you must pay a renewal fee.

A 'permit' is a license to carry concealed. There was a short time span between Judge Legg issuing the decision which invalidated the good and substantial standard the MSP uses to grant the license and the appellate court issuing a stay while the appeal was processed. Ultimately Judge Legg's decision was overturned.

There were 300 or so folks who applied for their permit in that time window who are now getting their denial letters.

--
Shamr0ck

What he said.... I was one if the 300 applicants.

Shamr0ck · Jul 28, 2014

yellowsled said:
What he said.... I was one if the 300 applicants.

And fwiw, I'm sorry you got denied but appreciate the effort you went thru to apply.

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Shamr0ck

PJDiesel · Jul 28, 2014

Jradack said:
My wife and I haven't yet applied for our permits.
Is it worth it now?

If you aren't a business owner, no, it's not worth it.

You'd get more fulfillment from handing me $250 bucks, letting me kick you square in the nuts and then walking away in shame.

Alea Jacta Est · Jul 28, 2014

PJDiesel said:
If you aren't a business owner, no, it's not worth it.

You'd get more fulfillment from handing me $250 bucks, letting me kick you square in the nuts and then walking away in shame.

PJD....

I just gotta ask. Is there a line for that treatment?

Armadillofz1 · Jul 28, 2014

PJDiesel said:
If you aren't a business owner, no, it's not worth it.

You'd get more fulfillment from handing me $250 bucks, letting me kick you square in the nuts and then walking away in shame.

Save your money for the Moving truck. It cost me almost 10k to put 2200 miles between me and you f#kers.

PJDiesel · Jul 28, 2014

Nnztg8r said:
PJD....

I just gotta ask. Is there a line for that treatment?

We can form one. I'd donate 100% of the proceeds to SAF.

Shamr0ck · Jul 29, 2014

I'll donate to SAF, but am going to pass on the kick in the stones

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Shamr0ck

Kharn · Jul 29, 2014

MJD438 said:
Trust me, the HPRB hearing is just a sham effort anyway (BTDT as one of the pre-stay applicants). The pessimist in me speculates that the HPRB received direction/suggestion from someone to just shitcan the rest to stop the tide of people complaining that they were not meeting the 90 calendar day time limit stipulated in statute (my hearing was somewhere in the neighborhood of a year after my informal review and subsequent request for a hearing, and only got escalated after involving a delegate).

Can't the applicant request a transcript of the meeting? :innocent0

LCPIWB · Jul 29, 2014

yellowsled said:
So I was one of the people that got in after the ruling and was obviously initially disapproved. I formally requested the appeal. That was months ago!!

Today I get this letter....

I got the same. I was also one of the pre-stay applications. I actually requested Aug 9th 2013, for a formal review.

Everyone is busy watching the Palmer thread, however I will be watching this.
Based upon letter implies "So sue us". If it is not too cost prohibitive $100-$200 or less to file I think I will. I do not need a lawyer, I just need satisfaction. I want to look the person in the eye who is telling me "Your life is not worth shit to protect", and them waiting almost a year to say so.

Has anyone followed up on the legal action yet?

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