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  • buzzzyy

    Big Member
    Nov 6, 2007
    1,435
    Aspen Hill
    I don't see how taking a job for a contractor is betraying one's country.
    i mean, don't that contractors that require these thing work for the gov?
     

    Kevp

    Ultimate Member
    Apr 17, 2008
    1,874
    You all missed the point entirely. Like many other subjects on this board, I wonder how many posters have even held a clearance.
     

    Markp

    Ultimate Member
    Dec 22, 2008
    9,392
    You all missed the point entirely. Like many other subjects on this board, I wonder how many posters have even held a clearance.

    On the plus side, you're one post short of a 1000... :)
     

    Kevmo

    N00b
    Feb 20, 2009
    2,919
    Severn
    yes someone will always sell out and be a traitor, I dont think anyone on here except maybe one person I worked with knows what I do, and even they dont know who I work with.
    Nothing on here is INFOSEC nor nothing that cant be seen google-ing TS/SCI clearance process or how to obtain one

    i'm talking about the ppl who posted that said oh i have one. and specifically what kind.
     

    leroygibbs

    Ultimate Member
    Jan 2, 2008
    3,285
    For great read, he is a link on clearance decisions
    http://www.dod.mil/dodgc/doha/industrial/

    Okay, off topic, but.....

    Case Number: 08-06969.h1
    Personal Conduct
    04/13/2010

    Applicant failed to advise his employer and the Government that his wife maintains two pornography websites, which include hardcore pornography. This decision places him in a position to be exploited, coerced or forced to provide classified information. He has not mitigated the government's security concerns. Clearance is denied.

    What really got him neg'd? The wife's (?) porn sites, or the fact he didn't advise? Should have given out more free passes...
     

    joppaj

    Sheepdog
    Staff member
    Moderator
    Apr 11, 2008
    46,463
    MD
    The wife's (?) porn sites, or the fact he didn't advise? Should have given out more free passes...

    When you are apllying for a background clearence (or a police job), disclose everything. Do not let the investigator find something on thier own, that will get you DQ'd everytime, particularly something like this that could have left the employee open to blackmail.
     

    MDvet

    Member
    Mar 13, 2009
    36
    White Marsh, MD
    interesting question, but you need to ask yourself the following questions

    - any arrest or convictions
    - money issues
    - past illegal drug use
    - membership to any "interesting" organizations
    - what pops up when you google your name

    Although these things will not automatically prevent you from getting a clearance, it will make it difficult.

    My opinion, the best way to get a clearance is joining the military. Unless you have some special skill no one else possess, why would a company pay for your security clerance when there are tons of people running around with security clerance.
     

    MDvet

    Member
    Mar 13, 2009
    36
    White Marsh, MD
    When you are apllying for a background clearence (or a police job), disclose everything. Do not let the investigator find something on thier own, that will get you DQ'd everytime, particularly something like this that could have left the employee open to blackmail.

    Don't have to disclose everything, but when confronted about something disclose it. Background questions might not ask you if your wife operates a porn site, so no need to disclose it. If the investigator asks you "anything I should know that might open you to blackmail" you will have to disclose what reasonable people would think to open you to blackmail.
     

    snavematt

    say what?
    May 19, 2009
    5,075
    Stafford, VA as of 5/7/13
    Don't have to disclose everything, but when confronted about something disclose it. Background questions might not ask you if your wife operates a porn site, so no need to disclose it. If the investigator asks you "anything I should know that might open you to blackmail" you will have to disclose what reasonable people would think to open you to blackmail.

    it also depends on your level, if you are goign Secret its not a problem, life style Poly is where this should have been disclosed
     

    Maverick0313

    Retired and loving it
    Jul 16, 2009
    9,183
    Bridgeville, DE
    To top it off I just read that 86% of company recruiters do a quick check of the "social" websites and such...and that 44% have NOT hired an applicant because of what they saw there....(I'm talking Myspace, Facebook, Twitter, etc.).
     

    MDvet

    Member
    Mar 13, 2009
    36
    White Marsh, MD
    good thing there are like 100000 people with the same name

    It could also work against you. One of my friends employment got held up because he had the same name as a convicted felon.

    This is dangerous as most or if not all companies don't disclose why they didn't hire your. So easy for someone to just google your name. If they see something they don't like it, without verifying, they could just not hire you.
     

    snavematt

    say what?
    May 19, 2009
    5,075
    Stafford, VA as of 5/7/13
    It could also work against you. One of my friends employment got held up because he had the same name as a convicted felon.

    This is dangerous as most or if not all companies don't disclose why they didn't hire your. So easy for someone to just google your name. If they see something they don't like it, without verifying, they could just not hire you.

    Im not worried as long as they do thier job properly they can check any site they want, there wont be issues, but again its about them doing thier job properly
     

    wabbit

    Ultimate Member
    Apr 29, 2010
    5,207
    When you get a job that requires a security clearance, you'll have to fill out a questionaire where you have to disclose a lot of information about yourself, your family, nearest relatives, and associates. They used to have a big stack of paperwork you would fill out, but now it's on the computer. The clearance is granted by the government, and the sponsoring agency pays for a background check and investigation. Like others have said, you should disclose everything. If it's something that can make you look untrustworthy or susceptible to manipulation, you need to disclose it because the investigators will find out. If they find out something they consider significant that you didn't disclose, the clearance will not be granted. Like someone else has said, polygraph is required for some jobs, but most don't.

    The easiest way to get a security clearance is to get hired by an agency or contractor into a job that requires a clearance. I don't think getting a clearance in the military helps you much unless you want to later get a job with the DOD as a civilian employee, or work for a DOD contractor. I say this because someone in the air wing can get a clearance because he has access to technical manuals requiring a clearance. It's not the same as someone who's worked with nuclear devices, and doesn't hold the same level of responsibility. Just my opinion though.
     

    snavematt

    say what?
    May 19, 2009
    5,075
    Stafford, VA as of 5/7/13
    When you get a job that requires a security clearance, you'll have to fill out a questionaire where you have to disclose a lot of information about yourself, your family, nearest relatives, and associates. They used to have a big stack of paperwork you would fill out, but now it's on the computer. The clearance is granted by the government, and the sponsoring agency pays for a background check and investigation. Like others have said, you should disclose everything. If it's something that can make you look untrustworthy or susceptible to manipulation, you need to disclose it because the investigators will find out. If they find out something they consider significant that you didn't disclose, the clearance will not be granted. Like someone else has said, polygraph is required for some jobs, but most don't.

    The easiest way to get a security clearance is to get hired by an agency or contractor into a job that requires a clearance. I don't think getting a clearance in the military helps you much unless you want to later get a job with the DOD as a civilian employee, or work for a DOD contractor. I say this because someone in the air wing can get a clearance because he has access to technical manuals requiring a clearance. It's not the same as someone who's worked with nuclear devices, and doesn't hold the same level of responsibility. Just my opinion though.

    Not true, holding a clearance helps you regardless, the level is the level, if you havent been read into a program you will never know about it, just because you have a clearance, doesnt mean you get to just walk in an d read classified information, you still have a need to know. Now a DOD and a DOE clearance are different
     

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