2016 MGA Firearm Bills
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jmcgonig
Active Member
Honestly, I think that is the point that strikes me. No anti-gun bills... yeah, moving forward is going to be tough, but at least we stopped the bleeding while the hard work is being done.
danb
dont be a dumbass
Don't get complacent about anti-gun bills. Even if none are filed, delegates can still try for amendments to must-pass legislation. It could only mean a change in tactics.
- Apr 26, 2012
- 5,289
Just thinking out loud here... and my guard is certainly not down... but without O'Mao being behind the big push for 'anti' legislation maybe the gun stuff is not that big of an issue with most delegates and that's why we are not seeing FSA13 quantity?
Boondock Saint
Ultimate Member
Fortunately, the single subject rule works in our favor here. You can't attach a firearm thing to a transportation bill, or a transportation thing to a firearms bill. The amendment has to be tangibly related to the subject matter of the bill to which it's being attached.
Boondock Saint
Ultimate Member
Make no mistake, FSA13 was absolutely O'Malley's doing. Lots and lots (and lots...) of arm twisting to shake loose enough votes to screw us. To say nothing of the outright cheating that occurred in committee/floor votes.
aquaman
Ultimate Member
Thank you, he's been at it for months. I think he purposely trolls MD 2A issues, please consider a perma-ban
- May 22, 2005
- 122,879
Thank you, he's been at it for months. I think he purposely trolls MD 2A issues, please consider a perma-ban
His behavior doesn't fit neatly into one of the categories, but the substance of his behavior is that it is trolling.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2165967/posts
Such is true.
I very much agree. My critique is that they're poking at the HQL around the edges. The HQL is annoying, but it can be worked around (especially the training requirement). The part of FSA2013 that had unavoidable consequences was the AWB portion. I'd like to see the tweaks directed in that area more than the HQL... but it doesn't seem like anyone's interested.
Mr H
Banana'd
If you're thinking in terms of "National Park carry attached to a credit card bill", that can't happen here. Thankfully, MD has a single-subject requirement.
Now, could they try to poison a bill in-kind? Sure... but IMO it would be seen as blatant, and not helpful to the legislator's longer term interests.
Lessening the application fee and removal of the one shot components are good things. That'll broaden the places where the classes can be taught.
I don't think a lessening of the time required for the class or a removal of the HQL altogether possible at this time.
I'd love to see those who obtain the HQL eligible for W&C, but that's another tough pill.
JamesH
That Guy
Didn't see it elsewhere in this thread... HB0459, the "Fee, Surcharge, and Tax Reduction Act of 2016", proposed by Hogan eliminates the HQL fee entirely. This is a all-around great bill!
daggo66
Ultimate Member
Personally I believe we should use the HQL to our advantage. Was it not part of "common sense" legislation? We should be using it to eliminate the 7 day wait. Ostensibly the purpose of the 7 day wait was to give MSP time to complete their background checks. Those checks are accomplished with the HQL. Opponents will counter that someone could become prohibited during the 10 year life of the HQL. Well if that happened, MSP should be taking the HQL along with the firearms. If it was something of a more minor issue that would still cause them to be prohibited in MD, then MD should be reporting those things to NICS and let the NICS work for all purchases including handguns (with the HQL).
Now for anyone who believes the 7 days is a "cooling off period", we can remind them that it either took nearly 30 days to get the HQL or it isn't their only handgun.
Common sense gun law, no?
Now for anyone who believes the 7 days is a "cooling off period", we can remind them that it either took nearly 30 days to get the HQL or it isn't their only handgun.
Common sense gun law, no?
aquaman
Ultimate Member
I agree with you on this. The HQL is annoying but its no worse than applying for a carry permit in most states that I know of, certainly on par with VA. The AWB is the real problem.
he's one of the ones that has certain other users of this web forum calling names.
it was long overdue, and wpuld have prevented many other arguements had it been done sooner.
Vile Shadow
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- Feb 28, 2013
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That would likely be the toughest problem to solve, since the entire law was born from a crime committed with an "AW".
I'm sure I am out of line and know this is a private forum but in the spirit of 1a, I find it rather ironic that in a pro 2a forum people are banned simply for expressing views that the inner circle might find disagreeable.
Vile Shadow
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- Feb 28, 2013
- 28,953
I fully understand, that is why I said "in the spirit of 1A".
A big oversimplification IMO.
It wasn't just a differing opinion, it was trolling and being a rabble-rouser and contributing zero to the forum. And it was done over, and over and over ........
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