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  • photoracer

    Competition Shooter
    Oct 22, 2010
    3,318
    West Virginia
    Technology wise I don't see real issues with the ideas of "smart guns" (just the implementation). The idea goes back to the 1950's with the A. E. van Vogt novels of a repressive future about the "Weapon Shops of Isher" (their store motto was "the right to buy weapons is the right to be free"). But in reality smart gun technology is just something else that can likely be hacked. If using some kind of wearable RFID device I could see even LEOs walking in a location where a dampening field is running and no one could get their guns to work of even out of the holster. And we all know that a finger print can be hacked under the right circumstances with the right technology. Even a locater beacon can be suppressed by a Faraday Cage. In effect without some kind of radical technology it all just a pipe dream.
    If you want to reduce accidents a locked box/safe is a lot cheaper than pie in the sky technology.
     

    K31

    "Part of that Ultra MAGA Crowd"
    MDS Supporter
    Jan 15, 2006
    35,678
    AA county
    Technology wise I don't see real issues with the ideas of "smart guns" (just the implementation). The idea goes back to the 1950's with the A. E. van Vogt novels of a repressive future about the "Weapon Shops of Isher" (their store motto was "the right to buy weapons is the right to be free"). But in reality smart gun technology is just something else that can likely be hacked. If using some kind of wearable RFID device I could see even LEOs walking in a location where a dampening field is running and no one could get their guns to work of even out of the holster. And we all know that a finger print can be hacked under the right circumstances with the right technology. Even a locater beacon can be suppressed by a Faraday Cage. In effect without some kind of radical technology it all just a pipe dream.
    If you want to reduce accidents a locked box/safe is a lot cheaper than pie in the sky technology.

    Smart Gun is an oxymoron. It's more of the "blame the gun" sales job that includes "gun violence".

    "Smart" guns aren't for LEOs or the military, no way, no how.For one thing it might interfere with the "master switch" to render all peons helpless.
     

    photoracer

    Competition Shooter
    Oct 22, 2010
    3,318
    West Virginia
    Yeah but they are presenting it as a way to reduce "take away" deaths for LEOs also. I don't think any of the officers I know would actually go for it anyway.

    Sent from my XT1064 using Tapatalk
     

    Threeband

    The M1 Does My Talking
    Dec 30, 2006
    25,315
    Carroll County
    I have enough trouble activating my Smart Phone. It usually takes me at least two swipes, then there is a maddening delay until the main screen comes up. Then I have to select an icon, and there is another maddening delay while I wait for that function to come up, or scroll through multiple pages looking for the application I want. Always failed entries, delays, lags.

    Imagine an automobile with Smart Brakes.

    When you want to stop, you would swipe the screen once, twice, three times and wait for it to activate. Then you would pull down a menu and select the "brake" icon, then wait while it loads. Once "Brakes" have loaded, you would select a value, from " moderate slowdown" to "panic stop." After entering "panic stop" you would wait for the command to execute...

    No, automobile controls must react instantly and so must those of a firearm.

    I think only an idiot would compare Smart Phones and guns in that way.


    Or someone with an ulterior motive.
     

    Threeband

    The M1 Does My Talking
    Dec 30, 2006
    25,315
    Carroll County
    Ivoryboody to get from street !!!!

    Emairgensee!

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    MigraineMan

    Defenestration Specialist
    Jun 9, 2011
    19,270
    Frederick County
    Here's some more good news...

    Killer airwaves: Russia starts trial of electromagnetic warfare system
    https://www.rt.com/news/340862-elect...-system-tests/

    ^^ = SCREWED

    I like the video ... especially the F-15E interior cockpit view where the displays are dark and the mechanical backup gauges indicate a sitting-on-the-ground attitude in spite of the pilot's "evasive maneuvers." The F-15's fins look wrong, and he appears to be flying in formation with MIG-29s maybe. The final scene belongs in a Transformers cartoon.

    Good to know we're not the only ones who manufacture vaporware.
     

    john_bud

    Ultimate Member
    Sep 23, 2009
    2,045
    We are probably about 30-35 years from a true "smart gun"

    By then computer tech will be producing chips with the same complexity as the human brain (and doubling every year). Add a few cameras to the gun, Wi-Fi so the gun can interact with other intel (fixed cameras, other mobile cameras even satellites!) so THE GUN can identify friend from foe, safe fire dxns, etc. Add fingerprint, instant dna testing or whatever is available so the gun will know it's operator. Then toss in gyroscopes and servos to allow the gun to assist in aiming and control firing....yeah that would be "a smart gun".

    But the B.S. spewed by politicians is for a pretty dumb gun.
     

    K31

    "Part of that Ultra MAGA Crowd"
    MDS Supporter
    Jan 15, 2006
    35,678
    AA county
    Here's some more good news...

    Killer airwaves: Russia starts trial of electromagnetic warfare system
    https://www.rt.com/news/340862-elect...-system-tests/

    ^^ = SCREWED

    Yeah, it will protect against all air and space based attacks. Presumably against MRVs flying ballisticly as they re-enter. I guess then it's also the perfect weapon against killer asteroids and other "dumb" threats.
     

    MigraineMan

    Defenestration Specialist
    Jun 9, 2011
    19,270
    Frederick County
    Back to the outgoing-President's smart gun plan -
    Gun owners - whether law enforcement officers, hunters, or homeowners seeking to protect their property - expect their firearms to work seamlessly, under all conditions, without concern for technical malfunction.

    Note the careful association of people with functions. Homeowners don't defend themselves ... that's Law Enforcement's job. Homeowners protect their property.
     

    Kashmir1008

    MSI Executive Member
    Mar 21, 2009
    1,996
    Carroll County
    In the event of an EMP strike or a CME that fries the grid and most electronics - a time when you might really need your gun - and your "smart gun" is effectively a brick.
     

    ELCAM

    Member
    Dec 17, 2011
    67
    Silver Spring, MD
    We are probably about 30-35 years from a true "smart gun"

    By then computer tech will be producing chips with the same complexity as the human brain (and doubling every year). Add a few cameras to the gun, Wi-Fi so the gun can interact with other intel (fixed cameras, other mobile cameras even satellites!) so THE GUN can identify friend from foe, safe fire dxns, etc. Add fingerprint, instant dna testing or whatever is available so the gun will know it's operator. Then toss in gyroscopes and servos to allow the gun to assist in aiming and control firing....yeah that would be "a smart gun".

    But the B.S. spewed by politicians is for a pretty dumb gun.

    Thats all stock footage from the IMAX operation Red Flag movie.
     

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