sykesville
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Outstanding idea!
Followed from Range and Robbed
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Outstanding idea!
(Hope that was sarcastic)
Until its plead down to tampering and misdemeanor theft to get the sure conviction;
sorry, but that's the way the game is played
Everyone here should know we already have sufficient laws ... making it "more illegal" never stops a criminal
Tomcat
Formerly Known As HITWTOM
Probably would have got shot down like all the common sense ammendments that were offered up for SB281 (FSA2013)
rob
DINO Extraordinaire
Yeah, like maybe they should pass a law saying that crime is illegal.
sykesville
Ultimate Member
This is the issue. MD is more intent on stopping law-abiding ownership of weapons than they are stopping the actual criminals who use weapons in the act of committing crimes. We saw that in Annapolis last year.
Tru dat; and, un fathomable as it may to be to the majority of us, had the theft occurred in PG, MoCo, Howard, Balt Co, etc. OR had MSP responded, the victim often winds up being CHARGED accordingly!
Thanks again to OP for the significant intel and inherent reminder!
sorry for your stuff getting stolen...but wth??? an off duty cop didnt do anything except call it in??
Most people who make a statement like this are the same ones who think cops should be just like any other citizen while off duty with nothing "police power" afforded to them. But should do everything in their power when someone thinks they should act.
Can an off duty cop in civilian clothes be able to carry inside Ikea that has a sign that says no concealed weapons? The majority says NO. Then that very cop does not need to try to enforce any law when he is 1. not on duty or 2. outside of his jurisdiction. Especially when he cannot afford to do it properly armed.
Also, the craziest part of your statement? He should have followed someone WITH A GUN.
I won't elaborate anymore because Name Taken said it all in a previous response.
OP... if possible, when leaving a range go home by a highway. Get up to a little speed during the drive. That is the easiest way to tell if someone is following you instead of playing zillion turn by turn cat and mouse games.
Sorry to hear about your misfortune.
platoonDaddy
Ultimate Member
I didn't read the whole thread, but this also my understanding. Wonder if the OP will be charged?
I sure as hell hope not but Who knows with Maryland. The way I read the law is if it's not expressly prohibited then it's legal. The law says you must be transporting to or from "target shooting" but does not say you cannot stop.
- Jun 28, 2009
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reminder folks, (and no i didn't go through the entire thread) there are criminal elements who hang out near ranges both public and private, waiting to follow someone home. the hope is, as in this case, the unsuspecting will stop somewhere making the theft easy, or they will follow you home to know where the gun will be stored for a "later date" crime.
"The law says you must be transporting to or from "target shooting" but does not say you cannot stop." <<~~~"to and from" doesn't say you can stop and have dinner in between! Point A to point B, and in reverse, there is no 'in between.'
"The law says you must be transporting to or from "target shooting" but does not say you cannot stop." <<~~~"to and from" doesn't say you can stop and have dinner in between! Point A to point B, and in reverse, there is no 'in between.'
PapiBarcelona
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- Jan 1, 2011
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What happens when you have to stop at a Traffic Controlled intersection, or a Stop sign?
HeatSeeker
Ultimate Member
You take the firearm straight home first and then go back and stop at those.
I'd not heard that about Continental, but had read about several examples involving On Target & MSAR.
I tend not to linger when leaving public ranges & perform a thorough survey of the parking lot before returning to my car.
TheRealJimDavis
Active Member
Just tossing this out there, has anyone considered calling their police and setting up a sting? Wouldn't be that hard. Plain clothes cop goes shoots gun in covert car. Leaves range, goes to local restaurant. Other plain clothes cops watch bait car... Firearm thefts are not to be taken lightly.
TheRealJimDavis
Active Member
I'll take initiative on it. What ranges have known problems? On target? Continental? Where else?
fabsroman
Ultimate Member
The "transfer" did not violate the SB281-2013 law because the perps had their HQL. Therefore, the transfer was all fine and good pursuant to SB281-2013. Granted, the theft issue might be a problem, but not the SB281-2013.
With that said, this is the argument why the antis want fewer and fewer guns in law abiding citizens' hands, because with fewer guns on the street, there are less for the bad guys to steal.
Threeband
The M1 Does My Talking
Maryland does not require direct transport without stops.
New Jersey does. Also D.C., but I seem to recall Emily Miller was told by D.C. police that it was okay to stop for gas, etc.
New Jersey does. Also D.C., but I seem to recall Emily Miller was told by D.C. police that it was okay to stop for gas, etc.
I don't disagree with you, but I hate the thought of being a test case for an over-reaching prosecutor.
PapiBarcelona
Ultimate Member
- Jan 1, 2011
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Battered Gun Owner Syndrome. I bet there are lots of people who start maxing out blood pressure/near heart attack on their way to the range when they see a marked Police Car, sweating, shaking, constantly checking the rear view.
I really don't care. If I'm on my way to/from the range and I feel the need to stop and eat, get gas, use the bathroom, stop at Walmart, etc. I just do it.
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