Pic's of Enfield sniper and smith corona

BLACKTALON · Apr 17, 2014

These got dropped off at the shop still looking up pricing for them. I want to know your oppion on the sniper if it is real or not and value on both. The enfield stamps look good but it does not have the sling look in front of the mag and the check peice looks differnt from other pictures I have seen.

lee2 · Apr 17, 2014

Nice looking rifles! Is that a peep sight on the smith corona?
I'd be interested in pricing on these.

SergeantEvil · Apr 17, 2014

Real interested in that enfield? Please pm a price when you figure it out.

Dave91 · Apr 17, 2014

All I can tell you is the 03-A3 has some kind of lacquer or varnish finish on it and a Lyman target sight.

fred333 · Apr 17, 2014

Hard to value the 'A3 without better photos (to see condition and whether all components are S-C or not), but Blue Book ranges between $300 - $1,250 (plus an additional 25% for a S-C). The "1903 Sporter", which is "similar to National Match, with sporter stock and Lyman sight" has a much higher value, ranging from $825-$6,000. That said, it also says that values "assume 100% original guns" and "the importance of the wood being original, unsanded....cannot be overstated".
I don't believe the Lyman sight was OEM on any standard S-Cs, so I don't know how its addition affects a non-Sporter's value.
From what I can make out from the photos, if I were in the market (I'm not), I'd probably offer $700-ish, if that's of any help.

BLACKTALON · Apr 17, 2014

SergeantEvil said:
Real interested in that enfield? Please pm a price when you figure it out.

SergeantEvil We want to make sure the gun is authentic before offing it for sale since they are big money we want to make sure it is the real deal.

what would you guys like for better pictures? The Peep sights are Redfield on the SC and it has the best bore I have ever seen mirror finish.

Rockchucker · Apr 17, 2014

Shame they drilled and tapped the rciever on the SC 03 for the Redfield peep sights and applied that varnish finish.
Still should make a good shooter even if the collector value is gone.

mawkie · Apr 17, 2014

As a shooter, between $550-600 IMHO. Unmolested you'd be in the $700-800 range for VG-Exec condition. I've been watching for a nice SC for a while now and they're steadily creeping up in price.

BLACKTALON · Apr 17, 2014

mawkie said:
As a shooter, between $550-600 IMHO. Unmolested you'd be in the $700-800 range for VG-Exec condition. I've been watching for a nice SC for a while now and they're steadily creeping up in price.

Are you we all sure it is varnished? I oiled it heavy maybe that is it. We have some really interested people in the Enfield so I am really trying to figure that one out.

Dave91 · Apr 17, 2014

BLACKTALON said:
Are you we all sure it is varnished? I oiled it heavy maybe that is it. We have some really interested people in the Enfield so I am really trying to figure that one out.

Do you mean you oiled the wood? If so that may be whats giving it the varnish look.

stu929 · Apr 17, 2014

Def looks like varnish to me! If so acetone or denatured alcohol will clean it up pretty well.

The 03 looks to be greek black park too which hurts value some as well.

BLACKTALON · Apr 17, 2014

Dave91 said:
Do you mean you oiled the wood? If so that may be whats giving it the varnish look.

yes I did

lee2 · Apr 17, 2014

this looks like a finish coming off to me.

Rockchucker · Apr 17, 2014

lee2 said:
this looks like a finish coming off to me.

Looks like it to me as well and I swear it looks like brush strokes in the pic with the triggerguard which also seems to have some varnish on it flaking off as well.

I agree on the Greek return black metal finish but looks different on the triggerguard ?

Threeband · Apr 17, 2014

The SC stock looks sanded, too.

How many rifling grooves? 6? 4? 2?

Hi-Torque · Apr 17, 2014

BLACKTALON said:
These got dropped off at the shop still looking up pricing for them. I want to know your oppion on the sniper if it is real or not and value on both. The enfield stamps look good but it does not have the sling look in front of the mag and the check peice looks differnt from other pictures I have seen.

Several arsenals converted them into "T" sniper series, so they aren't all going to look exactly alike.

But with that said, the cheek riser doesn't look right at all. No special sniper sling mount forward of the mag is also bad sign. The scope mount looks original, but was scrubbed and restamped to match the rifle. The serial number for the mount is not in the normal location, or font size. Does the buttstock have any arsenal stamps to signify who converted it, or to see if the scope matches the rifle? There should at least be a scope number on it, even if it doesn't match. Its common that they don't match, but preferred that they do.

What is that booger of weld or braze that's above the T stamping? That's not right at all.

It's clearly been repaired and parts interchanged, but the scope mount screws only have one stake mark at the right spot, with what appears to be no signs the screws were ever removed. That doesn't make sense on a mount that was scrubbed and restamped, and a receiver that has a big repair on the side of it.....

303_enfield · Apr 17, 2014

Need more pics of the "T"! It's a pre 1968 import, England stamp. T and TR = good. Now is the "s" on the right side. That weld looks bad. Front pad screws are wrong, should be a raised head 4BA screw. Need pics of the No 32 scope. Does the scope track and is it clear? Is S51 stamped into the knuckle of the butt stock? Is the serial number of the scope stamped on top of the stock next to receiver? If so remove butt stock and read the number on it, should match the rifle. The rifle number was not originally stamped on the bracket. That is a post war service innovation.

I could go on and on. But as a dealer you really need to buy some books by Laidler and Skennerton. Laidler (Capt) can be found hanging out here:
http://www.milsurps.com/forumdisplay.php?f=72

The wrong screws on the rifle is a big problem. I need more pictures.

Good luck!

BLACKTALON · Apr 18, 2014

Threeband said:
The SC stock looks sanded, too.

How many rifling grooves? 6? 4? 2?

I think it is 4 sir but I am in no way a expert

BLACKTALON · Apr 18, 2014

303_enfield said:
Need more pics of the "T"! It's a pre 1968 import, England stamp. T and TR = good. Now is the "s" on the right side. That weld looks bad. Front pad screws are wrong, should be a raised head 4BA screw. Need pics of the No 32 scope. Does the scope track and is it clear? Is S51 stamped into the knuckle of the butt stock? Is the serial number of the scope stamped on top of the stock next to receiver? If so remove butt stock and read the number on it, should match the rifle. The rifle number was not originally stamped on the bracket. That is a post war service innovation.

I could go on and on. But as a dealer you really need to buy some books by Laidler and Skennerton. Laidler (Capt) can be found hanging out here:
http://www.milsurps.com/forumdisplay.php?f=72

The wrong screws on the rifle is a big problem. I need more pictures.

Good luck!

to tell you the truth We do not deal in a lot of Surplus or C&R stuff

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