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    Ultimate Member
    The Glock 34 is little better for all around " Survival" or multi -purpose applications due to:
    Longer sight radius, adjustable sights makes it suitable for taking down game at reasonable ranges.( rabbits to deer)
    Longer barrel means higher velocity
    Better trigger pull ( 3.5lb connector as compared to a 4.5-7 lbs as found in standard Glocks)
    No larger than a 1911, if you can pack a 1911, you can also pretty much pack the 34
    High cap mags ( 17-32 round capacity)
    Cheap parts or upgrades
    Extended( factory installed) mag release. that solves the mag release issue that you had with standard glocks
    able to handle +P rounds, practice ammo is also cheaper ( will handle wolf, CCI or anything 9x19)
    Better balance
    Simplicity and durability, you can also dismantle/ build the entire pistol with a nail if you had to.
    Fires underwater just in case you need to shoot Sharks
    Rails for add ons
    Competition ready out of the box, My personal choice for HD
    Glock also calls it the " Practical-tactical" that designation fills a lot of roles.

    The only modification I would do to it is an addition of a set Meprolight adjustable tritium sights.


    Below: Glock 22 RTF with mirror polished slide and barrel

    Do you mean the Glock 35? I have the glock 34, I just bought a 3rd generation used one from a very nice form member. I shot it at a tree a few times, but have done nothing serious.

    What should I do to it or with it?

    And how does it shoot underwater? Does it have the aqua firing pin? The glock 34 seems pretty naught. If you get a 9mm with a long barrel you are shooting bullets with a lot more energy.
     

    dwnthehatch

    10-32
    Nov 6, 2007
    2,571
    Kent Island
    And how does it shoot underwater? Does it have the aqua firing pin? The glock 34 seems pretty naught. If you get a 9mm with a long barrel you are shooting bullets with a lot more energy.


    Long read but worth it:


    Can I shoot my Glock underwater?

    Just about any handgun will fire underwater -- at least once. :-) However, firing underwater is NOT recommended because it can have devastating effects on the pistol and the shooter -- a potentially dangerous activity that should only be utilized by trained personnel wearing proper equipment for protection against potential pressure wave effects of underwater detonation. The shock/pressure waves in water can really damage internal organs (ever heard of lithotripsy?). Shooting a pistol underwater can lead to property damage, serious bodily injury or even death.

    NOTE: Glock, Inc., specifically disclaims any and all liability from anyone performing or attempting to perform underwater firing with a Glock pistol -- you do so at your own risk.

    The Glock 17 may be equipped with an optional set of maritime spring cups for use in water environments. Maritime spring cups are not intended for submerged firing, but for surface use by special ops teams who operate in and around water. The maritime spring cups are two small parts within the firing pin assembly and are not included on any Model 17 sold by Glock (civilians can only get them through 3rd parties). They insure that water can pass by the firing pin within the firing pin channel, thus preventing the creation of hydraulic force within the firing pin channel -- which would slow the firing pin down, causing light primer strikes. With the special cups, the action will cycle reliably while submersed, if a little bit slower. NATO specification ammunition (such as Winchester's Ranger RA9124N) with waterproof sealed primers and case mouths is recommended.

    Although you may install the maritime spring cups on any Glock model, *only* the Glock 17 was designed and intended to use the modified spring cups for aquatic firing -- and only then using 9mm ball ammunition to remain within acceptable pressure limits. The foolhardy who insist on living dangerously must keep several things in mind: The Glock 17 must be fully submersed underwater. There must not be any air left within the pistol as the muzzle is pointed towards the surface of the water after submersion to allow the air in the barrel to escape. Use only full metal jacket, ball-type ammunition because the water within the barrel can spread a hollow point out within the barrel upon firing. This increases the bearing surface of the bullet to the barrel and could catastrophically increase pressures. Even if the barrel doesn't burst, the expanded bullet would get even bigger upon exiting into the water and would slow down very quickly while tumbling. Accuracy would be terrible.

    The marinized Glock 17 is primarily for use by various Special Warfare units operating in aquatic environments. At least one specialized Scuba diving group regularly uses G17's to dispatch sharks where they dive. The Glock 17 using NATO specification ball ammunition will completely penetrate a minimum of one 1/2" pine board at a distance of ten feet from the muzzle when fired underwater.

    Trained personnel who use Glocks underwater know they must obey several rules:
    1) use only a Glock Model 17 with amphibious spring cups (reliability issue);
    2) use only 9mm FMJ subsonic, sealed primer ammo;
    3) completely immerse the pistol and get *all* the air out of the barrel;
    4) wear protective ear plugs, gloves, wet suit, face mask, etc.;
    5) do not fire near solid objects or in enclosed spaces to prevent return
    concussion.

    However, any Glock -- even those not equipped with maritime spring cups -- will normally fire while submersed underwater. But doing so may generate excessive internal pressure and may cause the pistol to literally blow up. This is especially true with the use of high-pressure rounds (such as the .40 S&W/357 SIG) or hollow-point bullets.

    I recall a reported incident where a Glockster on a boating holiday decided to show some friends how his Glock would fire underwater (because Tommy Lee Jones said so in the movies). He stuck his hand overboard, pulled the trigger and came back with a bunch of shredded plastic and a badly injured hand.

    Another reported case was the Glockster who decided to try out his Glock 23 .40 S&W in the swimming pool after seeing pictures of Glocks being fired underwater on the web. He was totally submerged, with the gun, as he fired at a piece of wood on the bottom of his pool. The Glock did fire, the .40 S&W FMJ round left the barrel and went into the wood. The chamber also exploded and implanted shrapnel into his leg. Thinking that the water would muffle the blast, he did not wear hearing protection (the blast is actually about 4 times louder underwater). He is now mostly deaf in one ear and hears high-pitched tones most of his waking life.

    As you can see, firing a pistol underwater is a *very* dangerous endeavor.
    Several things could happen:
    1) the firing pin may be slowed enough to not detonate the primer
    (without the maritime spring cups)
    2) the pistol could blow up in your hand;
    3) the concussion could damage ears, eyes or internal organs;
    4) the bullet may not go where you intend it to.

    Even if you have the right equipment, know what you're doing and follow the rules -- the risks for underwater firing are minimized -- but not eliminated. Your pistol's barrel could be affected by water obstruction and your body by damaging concussion. By using hollow point bullets (water may cause the bullet to expand in the barrel), high pressure ammo, etc. -- you're asking for an underwater kaBoom! It you fire near solid or hard objects, the bouncing concussion can cause extensive, perhaps even fatal external/internal tissue injury. Why risk it?
     

    SCARCQB

    Get Opp my rawn, Plick!
    Jun 25, 2008
    13,614
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    Do you mean the Glock 35? I have the glock 34, I just bought a 3rd generation used one from a very nice form member. I shot it at a tree a few times, but have done nothing serious.

    What should I do to it or with it?

    And how does it shoot underwater? Does it have the aqua firing pin? The glock 34 seems pretty naught. If you get a 9mm with a long barrel you are shooting bullets with a lot more energy.

    I have not tried firing any of my Glocks underwater. I ve read that maritime cups are a must for that.Those can be purchased for < 10 bucks. I have also seen the youtube videos.

    I like the 34 better than the 35 ( i dont like 40SW). I believe that shot placement is vital in any HD situation and the 35 fits that perfectly. It is one of the easiest pistol to fire accurately . It also allows me to get back on target fast.
     

    swinokur

    In a State of Bliss
    Patriot Picket
    Apr 15, 2009
    55,394
    Westminster USA
    G30 with A & G mag spacer and G21 mag. CT laser grips. 13 + 1 for night stand duty (switch to 10 round mags for CC)

    G22C with insight M6X laser light combo 15 + 1

    sorry for the crappy cell phone pix.
     

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    BenL

    John Galt Speaking.
    I'm thinking about the same thing. Check these out
    a Glock 20 longslide ( 10mm) and a Glock 21 Longslide ( 45 ACP)
    Conversion parts are available , It just takes time, effort and a big chunkachange.

    Yeah, but you might be able to get away pretty inexpensively, if you can drop a Storm Lake 6" 10mm barrel in a model 35 long slide. $600 for the gun and another $150 for the barrel. That's much cheaper than than trying to build a long slide 1911 in 10mm. I was looking into that, and it's a pretty expensive endeavor, even if you build yourself.
     
    Aug 2, 2007
    1,253
    Harford County
    My Austrian made 17L was manufactured in Dec 2008 and came with the standard lever. Is your frame stamped "Made in Austria Glock Inc. Smyrna, GA" or just "Glock Inc. Smyrna GA"? Glock has started making large frames in the USA. There is a point system that Glock has to comply to on imported firearms. It's possible that the Austria made frames do not have the extended slide stop levers installed to comply with this system. Did you know that all imported glocks have adjustable sights installed to comply to the points system? They are removed at the Smynra, GA facility as soon as they get them and replaced with standard sights unless they are standard configuration for the firearm.

    Mine does say "Glock Inc., Smyrna, GA." on the frame. A few others I have seen on ARFCOM that have the extended slide stop also all appear to say the same. Good catch.
     

    Maverick0313

    Retired and loving it
    Jul 16, 2009
    9,183
    Bridgeville, DE
    Just talked to one of my brothers....he's looking for a .40......recommended the 22. He said he really likes the feel of the gun, but doesn't like "not havinh a real safety". After I finished laughing I told him that's why I LIKED it......and it's not like there is NO safety. Anyway...waiting to see what he does.
     
    Aug 2, 2007
    1,253
    Harford County
    Just talked to one of my brothers....he's looking for a .40......recommended the 22. He said he really likes the feel of the gun, but doesn't like "not havinh a real safety". After I finished laughing I told him that's why I LIKED it......and it's not like there is NO safety. Anyway...waiting to see what he does.

    Glocks, like revolvers, rely on the number one safety: the user. Follow proper safe-handling procedures and it's no more or less safe than any other firearm design.

    In fact many other designs with safeties require the safety to be off when the weapon is charged and have much lighter and easier to pull triggers. Once again they rely on the operator to follow proper handling procedures.
     

    Maverick0313

    Retired and loving it
    Jul 16, 2009
    9,183
    Bridgeville, DE
    Glocks, like revolvers, rely on the number one safety: the user. Follow proper safe-handling procedures and it's no more or less safe than any other firearm design.

    In fact many other designs with safeties require the safety to be off when the weapon is charged and have much lighter and easier to pull triggers. Once again they rely on the operator to follow proper handling procedures.

    Absolutely....agree 100%.:D
     

    Jarhead FLSTI

    Active Member
    Aug 31, 2008
    804
    Glen Burnie
    OK, I finally took a picture of my G20C but had to add the Delta Elite too. The G20C will have a 2.5lb connector and 4lb trigger spring as soon as the parts get here. I also have a 6" Lone Wolf barrrel for it.
     

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