Handgun Permit Review Board Denial

Mr H · Jul 24, 2014

I'm completely shocked.

Channel 2 is still out there?

Seriously, though, it's good that these stories come out (even as rarely as they do), because it builds a nice little history of infringement, and preventing the vulnerable from the right to self-protection.

Oh... wait... She works on behalf of the Republicans, doesn't she?!!

dblas · Jul 24, 2014

Mr H said:
I'm completely shocked.

Channel 2 is still out there?

Seriously, though, it's good that these stories come out (even as rarely as they do), because it builds a nice little history of infringement, and preventing the vulnerable from the right to self-protection.

Oh... wait... She works on behalf of the Republicans, doesn't she?!!

It would be nice if more stories came out. :innocent0

I wonder how we could do that? :innocent0

CypherPunk · Jul 24, 2014

I believe the HPRB denied everyone and then announced they are taking the rest of July off for vacation.

Mr H · Jul 24, 2014

redeemed.man · Jul 24, 2014

Mooseman said:
Well, that is one thought going through my mind. A judge in Allegany County maybe sympathetic to the 2A cause. Just a thought.

In your county I would definitely try the courts. We could all be pleasantly surprised.

Mooseman · Jul 24, 2014

boundlessdyad said:
In your county I would definitely try the courts. We could all be pleasantly surprised.

I am entertaining this thought. I don't know if it would make a difference or if the Circuit Court judges have been given their marching orders.

ECPDefense · Jul 24, 2014

I got home from travel today and read the letter in my own hands. Just out of curiosity, was everyone else's letter dated July 17, 2014?

I called the number which went to the voice mail of a Jean Goodman. I left a message but never got a returned call (no surprise there).

What I want to know is if I can get a copy of the transcript of my "review" which I wasn't invited to. They say in the letter that it emanates from the Woollard case, but if they really did review my case they would have seen that it was changed, and documentation submitted, due to work I perform in my employment.

GTOGUNNER · Jul 24, 2014

Follow the thread on the Road Rage Shooting.

http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=156577&referrerid=10257

Cop found guilty. No permit for you.

Cop found not guilty.. Good and Substantial for you!

OnTarget · Jul 25, 2014

TxAggie said:
So it's looking like it was basically an across the board denial.

Again, so much for their assertion that a majority of applicants are approved for a permit.

Oh wait, they probably had half the Dems in the legislature apply just to keep their numbers up.

WV resident. Got my denial letter yesterday.

ECPDefense · Jul 25, 2014

OnTarget said:
WV resident. Got my denial letter yesterday.

What was the date on the letter?

Mr H · Jul 25, 2014

Starting to look like they go through the stack once a year, whether they need to or not.

Mooseman · Jul 25, 2014

ECPDefense said:
I got home from travel today and read the letter in my own hands. Just out of curiosity, was everyone else's letter dated July 17, 2014?

I called the number which went to the voice mail of a Jean Goodman. I left a message but never got a returned call (no surprise there).

What I want to know is if I can get a copy of the transcript of my "review" which I wasn't invited to. They say in the letter that it emanates from the Woollard case, but if they really did review my case they would have seen that it was changed, and documentation submitted, due to work I perform in my employment.

ECPDefense said:
What was the date on the letter?

Mine was also dated July 17, 2014.

OnTarget · Jul 25, 2014

ECPDefense said:
What was the date on the letter?

July 17, 2014

ECPDefense · Jul 25, 2014

I called this morning and spoke to Ms. Goodman about the denial letter that I received this week and asked why I didn't get a chance to have a hearing. She stated (what I already knew) that the board has the option of conducting a hearing or perform a review.

I stated the facts that 1) timelines weren't followed according to regulations 2) the regulations state that if the board elects to review the record, the APPLICANT and state police shall submit information within 30 days of the review. How can this be accomplished if I wasn't notified of the the date? 3) If the board actually reviewed the file in depth, then it would seem to me that the denial letter would have been worded different because it didn't have anything to do with the Wollard case anymore.

I also asked if I could obtain transcripts of my board review and she said it is possible for a fee to have it transcribed and put on CD.

By the end of the conversation she said that she would go to the board on my behalf to request that a hearing be scheduled. We'll see......

I would like to point out that this was a very calm and civilized conversation. I know Ms. Goodman is only the middle person/office worker. She was very friendly, understanding, and willing to hear me out.

Mooseman · Jul 26, 2014

ECPDefense said:
I called this morning and spoke to Ms. Goodman about the denial letter that I received this week and asked why I didn't get a chance to have a hearing. She stated (what I already knew) that the board has the option of conducting a hearing or perform a review.

I stated the facts that 1) timelines weren't followed according to regulations 2) the regulations state that if the board elects to review the record, the APPLICANT and state police shall submit information within 30 days of the review. How can this be accomplished if I wasn't notified of the the date? 3) If the board actually reviewed the file in depth, then it would seem to me that the denial letter would have been worded different because it didn't have anything to do with the Wollard case anymore.

I also asked if I could obtain transcripts of my board review and she said it is possible for a fee to have it transcribed and put on CD.

By the end of the conversation she said that she would go to the board on my behalf to request that a hearing be scheduled. We'll see......

I would like to point out that this was a very calm and civilized conversation. I know Ms. Goodman is only the middle person/office worker. She was very friendly, understanding, and willing to hear me out.

Very interesting.

LCPIWB · Jul 30, 2014

yes, interesting. I will give a phone call and see how it goes.

Big Dog · Aug 2, 2014

I requested a handgun review board hearing and never got one. Same timeframe as OP....

Have not received a letter yet (but the mail has not come today...)

Big Dog · Aug 2, 2014

Not in mail today. I assume they are sending out in batches with the same date...

Cyndi59 · Aug 4, 2014

Maybe,Governor Hogan will remove the PRB from Maryland permently and disband their asses once in office..??I have pondered this question in general,why no one has seeked legal court action to the PRB the meaning to legally clearify this G&S nonsence and to explain themself's why 100's apond 100's are denied our basic rights of 2A..hopes I said my peace correctly..

Mr H · Aug 4, 2014

I don't think he can eliminate the HPRB, as IIRC it was established by statute (Bueller??)... but he can certainly knock the pins out from under them by directing MSP to accept "Self Defense) as G&S.

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