Tell me what I don't know about this. WWII era Walther.

yellowsled · Aug 16, 2014

What I think I have is a 1944 AC walther PP. Proofs and markings are correct I believe. Not sure if the one next to the trigger though. Any and all input is appreciated. Local pickup here in Ft. lauderdale.

No import marks, I assume a bring back.

I think I paid a good price, what would be the value on this?

Forgive me, Pics are gonna be one per post as I am on my phone.

yellowsled · Aug 16, 2014

yellowsled · Aug 16, 2014

yellowsled · Aug 16, 2014

The Money Shot!

Combloc · Aug 16, 2014

That is an Eagle/F stamp denoting Police use. Nice pistol! I can't speak to value though.

Combloc · Aug 16, 2014

Eagle/F, Eagle/C and Eagle/L stamps were used for police firearms. Here's an example of an Eagle/C on a Sauer 38h:

And an Eagle/L on a P38:

yellowsled · Aug 16, 2014

Police use? Better than nazi marks? I thought I would have seen some nazi marks... Confused..

Combloc · Aug 16, 2014

The Eagle/N is a commercial proof and all Third Reich era firearms have them in addition to the police stamps. The "Nazi" stamps you are referring to are only exhibited on pistols accepted by the Wehrmacht. The Kreigsmarine also had their own distinct stamps. So you have various "acceptance" stamps and they vary depending on who used the firearm in question. In your case, it was issued to police so it has commercial and police markings. I hope that makes sense. It can get VERY confusing once you really get into all the various markings but the above information covers the vast majority of cases that you are likely to encounter.

Dan44 · Aug 16, 2014

Nice find, and yes Police marked are more rare then Army marked pistols. My guess $800-900, what markings are on the mag?

yellowsled · Aug 16, 2014

Mag is a replacement

Combloc · Aug 16, 2014

That's unfortunate but that's OK too. So long as it shoots, take it out and enjoy it!

yellowsled · Aug 16, 2014

They are not SN if I am correct. I can just try to find a period correct replacement one I guess.

Combloc · Aug 16, 2014

That is correct.

Dan44 · Aug 16, 2014

WWII on the left- post war on the right. War mags have blued follower, post war silver.

yellowsled · Aug 16, 2014

Very good to know, now I know what to look for.

Tks

mopar92 · Aug 16, 2014

You home that looks like your table.

yellowsled · Aug 16, 2014

My table is darker wood. I'm at my rents in ft lauderdale

Bob A · Aug 16, 2014

Is it common for the Walther rollmark to be omitted on the WWII pistols?

somd_mustangs · Aug 16, 2014

Bob A said:
Is it common for the Walther rollmark to be omitted on the WWII pistols?

No, only seen on the last production guns...

This is a very late-war example, as noted with no slide logo on the left and "ac" mark on the right to denote Walther. A really really nice find, especially with the E/F proof which also indicates late war. Worth putting up on the Walther or P.38 forum to get more info...

somd_mustangs · Aug 16, 2014

Found a database that lists these "blank-slide" guns. Yours is pretty unusual because the "ac" is to the right of the S/N, not under it. The data show this was only done on the first few. Lowest recorded blank slide is 369461p, the last one with "ac" to the right is 374654p, first with "ac under" is 374737p. It looks like about half of these blank slide/matching number guns around your S/N were E/F police guns. Not long after, the Allies captured the factory and most "blanks" after that wound up being mis-matched "cigarette" guns (looks like somewhere around the mid 385xxx range). I'd post the database but it's not mine and not sure about copyright issues.

There's a thread devoted to these guns on the P.38 forum under the PP sub-forum... that's where the database link is. You have to join the forum to see it (private like the watercooler, but much friendlier!).

http://p38forum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29314

BTW - your gun isn't in the database.

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