Rules on Selling Older Firearms

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  • Chris

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    Jun 21, 2005
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    Cecil Co, Maryland
    I'm about to receive some older black powder/paper cartridge firearms. All three are dated late 1800's (one musket/two handguns). The revolvers are cap & ball and the musket is a smooth bore 58cal. Are these firearms cash & carry or do I need a C&R FFL to transfer if I were to sell them? Thanks Chris
     

    mvee

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    Dec 13, 2007
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    Crofton
    No FFL is required because they are blackpowder muzzleloaders, and also because they are antiques. They are not legally firearms.
     

    Blacksmith101

    Grumpy Old Man
    Jun 22, 2012
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    Chris
    Get some BP and shoot them yourself, smoke poles are fun. They carry BP up at Cameron's in Oxford PA.
     

    MedInfantry

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    Jun 24, 2010
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    I'm about to receive some older black powder/paper cartridge firearms. All three are dated late 1800's (one musket/two handguns). The revolvers are cap & ball and the musket is a smooth bore 58cal. Are these firearms cash & carry or do I need a C&R FFL to transfer if I were to sell them? Thanks Chris

    MVEE is correct. Considered an antique and does not need or require an 01 or 03 to have it shipped to the house.

    https://www.atf.gov/content/what-qualifies-antique-firearm
     

    Doug S

    Trufflehunter
    Jan 21, 2013
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    Please be sure that you're aware of the EXACT date of manufacturer. From the ATF website:

    As defined in 18 U.S.C. § 921(a)(16) the term “antique firearm” means —

    any firearm (including any firearm with a matchlock, flintlock, percussion cap, or similar type of ignition system) manufactured in or before 1898; or
    any replica of any firearm described in subparagraph (A) if such replica —
    is not designed or redesigned for using rimfire or conventional centerfire fixed ammunition, or
    uses rimfire or conventional centerfire fixed ammunition which is no longer manufactured in the United States and which is not readily available in the ordinary channels of commercial trade; or
    any muzzle loading rifle, muzzle loading shotgun, or muzzle loading pistol, which is designed to use black powder, or a black powder substitute, and which cannot use fixed ammunition. For purposes of this subparagraph, the term ‘antique firearm’ shall not include any weapon which incorporates a firearm frame or receiver, any firearm which is converted into a muzzle loading weapon, or any muzzle loading weapon, which can be readily converted to fire fixed ammunition by replacing the barrel, bolt, breechblock, or any combination thereof.

    LINK

    I collect Colt 1873 Single Action Army revolvers, and they're a good example. One made in 1897 and 1899 are almost indistinguishable, unless you carefully check the serial number against Colt's lists. The ones I have made in the 1970's and even 2013 are pretty much the same (a couple of minor tweaks), but they're considered firearms. Only the ones made before 1898 are antiques, the others require the same FFL transfer as any other firearm.

    Go figure...
     

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