ThawMyTongue
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sorry if i missed this earlier, but does anyone know when the case will be heard? Also where I can look to follow it?
I also have another question, (again sorry if I missed this somewhere else) lets say the case is won and the court decides that self defense is a substantial reason for a permit and thus allows shall issue, if the superintendent appeals it, does that ruling stay on hold and continue the rule that defense is not a good substantial reason? or does it make md shall issue until the next court the case is appealed to makes a decision?
Deadlines will be set for initial briefs, then response to those briefs. Then MD will file a request for an extension, which SAF will oppose with a request for a Motion for Summary Judgment. The state's request will be granted, the SAF request denied.
Then the state will file another brief and SAF will respond. At which point the court will call a hearing, where both sides will acknowledge no "finding" is required. SAF will again ask for an MSJ and MD will again request a delay. The MD motion will be denied but the court will allow MD time to formulate more options. Eventually the court will tire of MD and issue their MSJ.
This is pretty much how every single other case has gone.
If MD loses, they will request a stay on the MSJ while they appeal based on the inherent danger of letting people roam the streets with guns. The court may agree if MD paints a case that says they might win on appeal. But given this is a civil rights case, chances are the answer will be "tough".
Timeline front to back: 9 months although we could see things move much faster. I might owe Krucam dinner this year, yet.
That is one bet I'd be happy to lose.
Unless the legislature steps in during the next session. Creating a shall issue law, instead of letting the MSP decide good/substantial reason.
Unless the legislature steps in during the next session. Creating a shall issue law, instead of letting the MSP decide good/substantial reason.
True, that.
But that's not going to happen until next year at the earliest. I think they will step in to create a training requirement, but leave the crux of our grief to the courts.
Oh they'll step in alright, but I"m sure that they won't step the way you want them too.
If MD loses, they will request a stay on the MSJ while they appeal based on the inherent danger of letting people roam the streets with guns. The court may agree if MD paints a case that says they might win on appeal. But given this is a civil rights case, chances are the answer will be "tough".
They're already letting people roam the streets with guns...the wrong people.
So, for those of us that are "in process".... what does this all potentially mean?
I agree with all of that Scott but.....If you were going to stab someone in the eye, would you say, "Hi, I'll be at your house tomorrow at 4:37pm with a 6" knife that was recently sharpened. I'll knock first, but probably just walk in anyway and come from behind and insert my knife as accurately as possible into your left eye"???
Some things simply can't be discussed until the appropriate time...simple as that. Telegraphing one's intentions to an adversary is foolish. We know exactly who reads these forums by their email addresses and IP's and when, how often and what they read while they're here.
On top of that, this is SAF's case for sure. It was not our place to disclose their intentions.
As for soliciting money? People will send money to the causes they believe in without being hassled into it, as witnessed by the NRA bashing that regularly occurs due to their solicitation of funds.
So, for those of us that are "in process".... what does this all potentially mean?
I'd expect that this lawsuit will have no bearing whatsoever on things right now. Stay the course that you have planned.