Light, Strong, inexpensive 15" Rail?

501st · Feb 27, 2014

ObsceneJesster said:
I don't know how quick you need this by BCM just put their KMR on the market yesterday. I ordered the 13" model and supposedly they will have a 15" model by early summer. They are the lightest on the market. The 13" weighs 7.7 ounces with the barrel nut.

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I guess you missed his "inexpensive" requirement.

Trumpet · Feb 27, 2014

Anyone know about the SLR Solo Series? Looks pretty nice, although it's pretty much starting the hit the ceiling of what I'd pay....

http://slrrifleworks.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=66&product_id=79

photoracer · Feb 27, 2014

Trumpet said:
Troy is a no-go for me.

I'm not so much rejecting key mod because it's keymod, but more because of the "latest/greatest=$$$$" issue. That being said I have less issue with key mod over picatinny. I have no need for all sorts of rail estate for this particular upper. If I can find a reasonable fore end that happens to be keymod, so be it.

How study is the AP tube? I like that no glue is required.

Well I shot it all last year in 3-gun, meaning dumping in the barrels when switching firearms and it never had an issue. It slides onto the adapter pretty far before the screws line up so it does not get torqued too much and the sandwich adapter that locks around the barrel nut is rock solid. On the one I put on my 15-22 I had to install a standard AR barrel nut on the Tacticool22 adapter. It created a small gap but other than that I like shooting it better than the Nordic or Hogue handguards I had on previously.

photoracer · Feb 27, 2014

campns said:
Ok, I dont want to derail this thread; however, why why why would someone want a short rail/handgaurd? there is less surface area for stability on another surface, ie tree, rock, etc...

I have always had a Long handguard and for stability with off hand shots it's great, even with my deer rifle or shotgun i despise feeling as if i'm cramped taking a shot. I't not as if in the Civy world were jumping out of or hanging out of humvees .... so enlighten me please.

Depends on what you want the AR to do. Both my 18" barreled 3-gun AR and my 20" barreled 6.8mm AR have 15" extended rifle handguards on them so I can use a bipod or get a lot of torque by grabbing them way down towards the end of the barrel. But my 14.5 urban assault AR has a 7" Samson Evo on it because I installed a YHM flip-up FS/GB on it (clamp-on type because of the pinned PSA Pigsticker Comp on the end). I wanted to be able to take the FS, GB, and handguard off if needed over the pinned comp. I have that one setup with short grips like a Magpul AFG or vertical grip for shooting in close quarters. I built it for that and for the NRA NDM matches.

photoracer · Feb 27, 2014

Trumpet said:
Anyone know about the SLR Solo Series? Looks pretty nice, although it's pretty much starting the hit the ceiling of what I'd pay....

http://slrrifleworks.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=66&product_id=79

Keymod seems a waste for 3-gun if you ask me. You don't put much of anything on a 3-gun AR except on a top rail so any smooth single rail handguard that will except rail sections in a pinch is more that adequate. You don't spend time between stages adding or subtracting items off your AR, because except for Open division most things are not allowed.

jimbobborg · Feb 28, 2014

photoracer said:
Keymod seems a waste for 3-gun if you ask me. You don't put much of anything on a 3-gun AR except on a top rail so any smooth single rail handguard that will except rail sections in a pinch is more that adequate. You don't spend time between stages adding or subtracting items off your AR, because except for Open division most things are not allowed.

I have a full rail set up on my 3-gun rifle, a keymod rail would weigh about half of what my rail does and I wouldn't need rail covers to run it like it's supposed to be done.

Trumpet · Feb 28, 2014

photoracer said:
Keymod seems a waste for 3-gun if you ask me. You don't put much of anything on a 3-gun AR except on a top rail so any smooth single rail handguard that will except rail sections in a pinch is more that adequate. You don't spend time between stages adding or subtracting items off your AR, because except for Open division most things are not allowed.

Yeah, I see your point on the keymod thing. However, I'm not sure if I'm going to shoot 3-gun (I'd like to give it a try though, however there's nowhere near that I can think of that does it) and the rifle will be primarily a precision set up. Also the SLR is 8 oz. When it comes down to it and I look at my wants/needs it seems that the only difference between a 3-gun set up and precision rifle, FOR ME, is that the 3-gun rifle "goes faster". Otherwise the things I want are the same. Anywho, I will take a harder look at the AP custom set up.

jaredm1 · Feb 28, 2014

rsj1231 said:
Samson Evo here.. I have a 15" on my 18" barrel, ...

I have the same only it's the Rainier Arms version. I like it so far and it's about as buget-friendly as you can get. No need for a proprietary barrel nut/wrench.

Trumpet · Mar 3, 2014

Does the AP tube have a spud to mount a bipod?

lmorrison17 · Mar 4, 2014

troy alpha on sale at primary arms 159 i ordered 1 yeserday

Trumpet · Mar 4, 2014

lmorrison17 said:
troy alpha on sale at primary arms 159 i ordered 1 yeserday

Price is nice, but just can't do Troy

FlatsFlite · Mar 4, 2014

Diamondhead VRS-T scroll down for pics. Roughly $160 if you shop around.

https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_12/580422_Diamondhead_VRS_T_Angular_Handguard___Info_and_Pics.html

Trumpet · Mar 4, 2014

FlatsFlite said:
Diamondhead VRS-T scroll down for pics. Roughly $160 if you shop around.

https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_12/580422_Diamondhead_VRS_T_Angular_Handguard___Info_and_Pics.html

1 lb 5.7 oz for the 15" model.

INMY01TA · Mar 4, 2014

I like the Midwest SS/keymod handguards for the price. They're thinner than the Sampson Evo's.

photoracer · Mar 5, 2014

Trumpet said:
Does the AP tube have a spud to mount a bipod?

All the vents in the tube at 3, 6, and 9 O'clock accomodate rail sections that can be inserted. The 15" comes with 1 or 2 2" sections and they sell a kit that has 2 2" and 1 4" rail sections.

photoracer · Mar 5, 2014

Trumpet said:
1 lb 5.7 oz for the 15" model.

I think the AP railed 15" weighs 9.9 ozs. and that includes the weight of the mounting bracket.

lmorrison17 · Mar 5, 2014

whats wrong with troy my rail is strong enough to shoot slung up and it's lighter than most and the price is right

Trumpet · Mar 5, 2014

lmorrison17 said:
whats wrong with troy my rail is strong enough to shoot slung up and it's lighter than most and the price is right

The company.

http://www.thebangswitch.com/the-hiring-follies-of-troy-industries/

lmorrison17 · Mar 7, 2014

Holy crap I wish I had read that before I gave them money :mad54:

clandestine · Mar 7, 2014

Midwest gen 2 ss standard or keymod for a light and durable rail

Avoid troy rails. The barrel nut attachment is awful.

Yhm lightweight ff models are great but heavy.

Certain dd rails are terrible too but some are nice.

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