Aftermarket titanium grips with torx screws on a Springfield 1911. One keeps popping loose. I got a replacement from the mfr, and installed it with some blue loctite, but the screw is just too small for the hole -- and came out again. Not sure where to go next. JB Weld?
1911 grip screw won't stay in
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does the screw thread in? threads stripped on receiver?
- Feb 4, 2013
- 28,175
Is the grip screw bushing in place? Is the bushing correctly sized for the screw?
I would look for a larger screw with the same threads rather than putting JB weld on it. Maybe they make a helicoil that will fit in there.
todbiker
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I have an old 1911 Springfield with one of the threaded holes in the butt of the pistol for the grip stripped. It still operates fine, but I would need a smith to fix it.
lsw
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- Sep 2, 2013
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As Pinecone said, 1911s (maybe not all manufacturers?) have a threaded bushing in the frame that the grip screw screws in to. If yours uses them, you can replace it and the screw.
http://www.amazon.com/1911-Screw-Bu...id=1406870312&sr=8-7&keywords=1911+grip+screw
http://www.amazon.com/1911-Screw-Bu...id=1406870312&sr=8-7&keywords=1911+grip+screw
Magnumite
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So is it the screw or the bushing which is popping out? If the bushing keeps popping out and the bushing threads are intact then the frame bushing threads are stripped out. An oversized threaded bushing will be needed. The tap to cut the threads will be needed to do this.
- Feb 4, 2013
- 28,175
I assume you tried that screw in one of the other holes to make sure it is not the screw?
If the screw is coming all the way out, it is the screw or the hole in e bushing. If the grip is coming loose at that location, without the screw coming out, it is the hole in the frame for the bushing.
If the screw is coming all the way out, it is the screw or the hole in e bushing. If the grip is coming loose at that location, without the screw coming out, it is the hole in the frame for the bushing.
There is no bushing on the screws of these grips, only torx screws. The grips are these: http://www.brownells.com/handgun-pa...auto-ultra-slim-titanium-grips-prod27494.aspx. I assume there must be threads in the receiver, but as the grips are in place, can't see them. The old screw fell out of this hole, and then the replacement screw sent by the mfr of the grips (which would not screw in solidly or stay not withstanding Loctite), so it may be that the threads on the receiver are stripped, if there are threads. (These aftermarket grips replaced wood grips that did have bushings and screws, so perhaps there are no threads . . .? yet the other screws seem to be solidly in place). It may be that this hole is just a tad larger than the other holes, for some reason.
jmira
VA Rocks.
You didn't by chance get screws for thin grips did you? The reason I asks is, I have thin grips, and have to look for them.
Magnumite
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The thin grips typically require the thin grip bushings as well. Or file the original bushings down.
BigDaddy
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- Feb 7, 2014
- 2,235
It's time to take the grip off and look and see what's going on. It's unlikely that they would furnish you with one undersized screw twice in a row. No to the JB weld, your the Empress, not Bubba
Took grips off. There are no bushings, on the frame or attached to the screws. Torx screws screw directly into the frame. That's it. There are no threads on the frame, just simple holes. Rather than furnishing two undersized screws, it may be that that that particular hole in the frame is a smidgen bigger than the others . . .
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- Feb 4, 2013
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Talk about serious cheaping out.
I would either do it myself, or have a gunsmith install bushing. Drill out and tap current holes to fit grip screw bushings.
They are there for a reason, the frame is VERY thin there and VERY easy to strip out the threads.
I would either do it myself, or have a gunsmith install bushing. Drill out and tap current holes to fit grip screw bushings.
They are there for a reason, the frame is VERY thin there and VERY easy to strip out the threads.
Magnumite
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Has that pistol been worked on? Slide stop and thumb safety don't look original.
Those screws look like they screw right into the bushing threads of the frame. The threads in that particular hole in the frame are probably stripped. The threads in the stripped hole also look like the wear is toward the top of the frame. Screws holes in that grip panel not spaced properly? Something to check.
Options:
- call the grip manufacturer and/or SA and see if they have oversized screws. You will also need the tap;
- research a heli coil for it;
- Call SA and see if it is prudent to use bushings in that pistol. If that is an aluminum frame? I do recall hearing something about SA aluminum frames not using bushings. If bushing capable, tap for oversize grip screw bushing and use grips which use bushings. Do the titanium grips have a counter bore on the backside of the grips?
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Those screws look like they screw right into the bushing threads of the frame. The threads in that particular hole in the frame are probably stripped. The threads in the stripped hole also look like the wear is toward the top of the frame. Screws holes in that grip panel not spaced properly? Something to check.
Options:
- call the grip manufacturer and/or SA and see if they have oversized screws. You will also need the tap;
- research a heli coil for it;
- Call SA and see if it is prudent to use bushings in that pistol. If that is an aluminum frame? I do recall hearing something about SA aluminum frames not using bushings. If bushing capable, tap for oversize grip screw bushing and use grips which use bushings. Do the titanium grips have a counter bore on the backside of the grips?
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- Feb 4, 2013
- 28,175
Loctite doesn't work unless the fit is tight. Two reasons, one is the basic structural strength of the compound. Secondly, because it cures due to teh LACK of okygen. If the fit is too loose, it is not sealed enough for the Loctite to cure.
Henkel does make products designed to secure loose fits, but those are for unthreaded connections, like a bearing on a shaft. And the fit can't be too loose.
Henkel does make products designed to secure loose fits, but those are for unthreaded connections, like a bearing on a shaft. And the fit can't be too loose.
Magnumite
Ultimate Member
Loctite does make a thread restorer. Sort of an epoxy with a release agent. Still not as good as a mechanical repair.
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