SAF files for cert in Drake (NJ may-issue)
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Benanov
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Tell that to the liberals, not me.
We've been trying to tell that to the liberals here.
Here's the thing. When all of the gun control bills were in the legislature last year, Gary S. Schaer, chairman of the budget committee (which Assemblyman Charles Mainor moved the bills to after he couldn't get enough votes in the law and public safety committee) asked ANJRPC's Scott Bach, "shouldn't we want to make gun ownership as difficult as possible?" Gives you an idea of the mindset here. Gun ownership is a privilege. They even reluctantly follow LEOSA here. They had to be dragged kicking and screaming... Speaking of which, did you know that LEOSA has a provision specifically aimed at NJ's shitty laws? Yes, the hollow point provision was aimed squarely at NJ.
Here's the thing. When all of the gun control bills were in the legislature last year, Gary S. Schaer, chairman of the budget committee (which Assemblyman Charles Mainor moved the bills to after he couldn't get enough votes in the law and public safety committee) asked ANJRPC's Scott Bach, "shouldn't we want to make gun ownership as difficult as possible?" Gives you an idea of the mindset here. Gun ownership is a privilege. They even reluctantly follow LEOSA here. They had to be dragged kicking and screaming... Speaking of which, did you know that LEOSA has a provision specifically aimed at NJ's shitty laws? Yes, the hollow point provision was aimed squarely at NJ.
Brooklyn
I stand with John Locke.
I feel your pain.. I still have property in NYC.
Ragnar
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Does it help the chance that the SCOTUS might hear this case that the state's attorney general apparently isn't defending the law in NJ court?
http://www.ammoland.com/2014/01/bridgegate-not-the-only-scandal-that-could-derail-christies-2016-presidential-run/
http://www.ammoland.com/2014/01/bridgegate-not-the-only-scandal-that-could-derail-christies-2016-presidential-run/
Knuckle Dragger
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One difference between Drake and the RTC cases that came before it is that Moore is no longer looming in the background. I think the justices would very likely have taken Moore if they'd had the chance. Now that no longer is an option a case like Drake looks much more appealing.
Good question-maybe a Heller 5 fence sitter would smell blood in the water and vote for cert?? Only thing is his AG has been defending the law in the Drake case, but not Pantano.
IIRC by the time Woollard was denied cert Moore was already off the table. But they may definitely may prefer a Moore-like case (total carry ban).
Kharn
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But the post-Moore permits had not yet been issued, so there were still chances for shenanigans.
Heck they still haven't
What is the deadline for the Court to give an answer on Drake. I'm convinced that the Ninth will not issue a ruling on the three carry cases before it until there is an answer one way or another. The tone of the Drake cert is much different than the previous cert petitions and if it comes down to it I am wondering how the Ninth Circuit writs will look like. Most notably whether the NRA and SAF will be adversarial in their writing in order to get there case picked up and not the other or whether they will work together.
Kharn
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Jerejian's response is due 12 February, with the cert conference usually being just 2-3 weeks after that.
Drake v Jerejian docket
Drake v Jerejian docket
They started approving permits Yesterday.
As expected, NJ has asked for an extension-new due date is March 14th.
krucam
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Without digging into the SCOTUS rules (which I won't do in bed on my ipad 
) the Amici in the Woollard case came 1 day shy of 5 weeks from the Petition.
http://www.supremecourt.gov/Search.aspx?FileName=/docketfiles/13-42.htm
The Drake petition was filed January 9th. The same timeline points to NLT Monday for Amicus Briefs.
) the Amici in the Woollard case came 1 day shy of 5 weeks from the Petition.http://www.supremecourt.gov/Search.aspx?FileName=/docketfiles/13-42.htm
The Drake petition was filed January 9th. The same timeline points to NLT Monday for Amicus Briefs.
Elliotte
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Without digging into the SCOTUS rules (which I won't do in bed on my ipad
http://www.supremecourt.gov/Search.aspx?FileName=/docketfiles/13-42.htm
The Drake petition was filed January 9th. The same timeline points to NLT Monday for Amicus Briefs.
That was also the same date that MD's response was originally due (they got an extension). In the case of Drake, the response due date is Feb 12th, a week from tomorrow, so if that's the pattern, then we might see them as late as Wednesday next week.
Kharn
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No lawyer ever turns in briefs early, it gives the opposition additional time to pick their argument apart.
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