MSI needs to show this to Hogan and demand Self Defense as G&S

MDFF2008 · Apr 27, 2015

Let's be honest. In a riot situation, use of lethal force is a "Olympus has fallen" level resort. You have 10, 20 bullets at best. There are hundreds of rioters. You are severely, severely out numbered.

If you're going to shoot, you better run fast.

Name Taken · Apr 27, 2015

The guy is presumably going to an O's game...he wouldn't be allowed to carry anyway.

Mr H · Apr 27, 2015

slybarman said:
Is the knife a photoshop? Looks like he may have been winding up to throw a haymaker.

Not a punching stance, IMO... and the other guy is more freaked out than he should be for a fist.

I'm going with him having a knife.

Muleskinner · Apr 27, 2015

slybarman said:
Is the knife a photoshop? Looks like he may have been winding up to throw a haymaker.

I was listening to the scanner ....there were several reports of a person fitting this description attacking people with a knife.

Medshot · Apr 27, 2015

Schipperke said:
It is difficult from this photo to argue deadly force, unless the argument is the victim saw a knife in hand. (but it is not opened) I would argue with the prevalence of switch blades, seeing that coming at you, even closed would justify deadly force.

The knife is clearly open in that photo, the blade is downward.
That said...this picture does look a bit...off...why was the "victim" there in the first place? The rest of the crowd (except for the Hispanic man in the orange jacket) doesn't seem to be concerned in the least. I fully believe that crap like this is going on, but multiple elements of this specific photo seem a bit off.

lsw · Apr 27, 2015

Schipperke said:
It is difficult from this photo to argue deadly force, unless the argument is the victim saw a knife in hand. (but it is not opened) I would argue with the prevalence of switch blades, seeing that coming at you, even closed would justify deadly force.

I can't tell if the knife was photoshopped into the picture, it's certainly possible, but the knife is open, with the blade pointing down from the bottom of the guy's fist.

JasonB · Apr 27, 2015

Looks like the knife is open. Blade pointing down.

rtruhn · Apr 27, 2015

They both wear New Balance sneakers. Can't We All Just Get Along?!

Medshot · Apr 27, 2015

gprimr1 said:
Let's be honest. In a riot situation, use of lethal force is a "Olympus has fallen" level resort. You have 10, 20 bullets at best. There are hundreds of rioters. You are severely, severely out numbered.

If you're going to shoot, you better run fast.

You're telling me no-one else conceal-carries beta mags? :rolleyes:

slybarman · Apr 27, 2015

JasonB said:
Looks like the knife is open. Blade pointing down.

I don't know if it was photoshopped or not, but if it was that is how you would have to do it to fit it into his closed fist.

slybarman · Apr 27, 2015

Mr H said:
Not a punching stance, IMO.

Agree -but most people don't actually know how to throw a punch.I don't know much about knife fighting (well nothing actually), but it doesn't strike me as much of a knife fighting stance either.

Schipperke · Apr 27, 2015

slybarman said:
Is the knife a photoshop? Looks like he may have been winding up to throw a haymaker.

I blew up the photo, is that a blade coming from the bottom of his hand?

Straightshooter · Apr 27, 2015

pbharvey said:
Even if you have your CCW permit, aren't there strict rules about carrying in a bar?
Besides the fact that the stadium probably bans firearms.

#1 No
#2 Yes

slybarman · Apr 27, 2015

Schipperke said:
I blew up the photo, is that a blade coming from the bottom of his hand?

I would assume so.

Schipperke · Apr 27, 2015

slybarman said:
I would assume so.

Yes, my first view I did not notice the blade. Figured he was using it closed in fist for weight in the punch. That would be a clean shoot if I were King..

slybarman · Apr 27, 2015

Agree if it is real.

Name Taken · Apr 27, 2015

Straightshooter said:
#1 No
#2 Yes

Unless Baltimore City has it's own law regarding it there is nothing illegal that I know of for carrying in a bar.

You can't carry while "intoxicated" according to the law...the level of intoxicating is not in the law so you have to refer to case law if there is any, assume it is above .08 which is the legal DUI limit, or risk taking a charge because you have an odor on your breath.

Best just not to drink...but the state law does not prevent you from being some place where beer is sold.

HarCo2ANewb · Apr 27, 2015

You lost me at "Needs" and "demands"

yellowsled · Apr 27, 2015

while wearing a "black lives matter shirt" too.

Brychan · Apr 27, 2015

Looks like the guy with knife is either going to full on slash, think hay maker, but hitting with the full blade most likely across the face or he's going to try an come up and bring the knife down into neck shoulder area. Those would be my guesses any way. Wonder how it turned out.

MSI needs to show this to Hogan and demand Self Defense as G&S

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