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  • Jim Sr

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    Jun 18, 2005
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    Ruger Old Army Cap-N-Ball .45 Revolver
    Hornady .457" diameter round ball.
    41 gr. FFFF GOEX = 1036 fps :thumbsup:
    Times six. :D
     
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    4570inMD

    Western MD Hooligan #007
    Jan 26, 2011
    1,337
    West Virginia
    It's beautiful.

    Who made it?

    My .50cal Underhammer rifle was made by Mark Bond. You can see some of his other projects at http://underhammers.blogspot.com/

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    Oct 27, 2008
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    Remington New Model Army (polished stainless) by Pietta and E. Whitney Navy Model by Palmetto
     

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    4570inMD

    Western MD Hooligan #007
    Jan 26, 2011
    1,337
    West Virginia
    Sometimes you need a pair of 1858 Remington New Model Army .44cal BP revolvers:

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    Upper one is a Lyman by Uberti (Italy) and the lower one is by E.N. Santa Barbara (Spain).

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    Augie

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    Sep 30, 2007
    4,504
    Central MD
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    The top 2 are Jack Garner built, a 45 cal poor boy and a 45 Lancaster. The bottom is a 40 cal Larry Gardner built fancy poor boy,it's a slim light rifle. The Larry Gardner built rifle will be for sale soon. I really need to take some better pictures.
    Nice under hammer 4570inMD.
     

    itsatrap

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    Jan 6, 2011
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    MoCo
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    I have a bayonet also, just did not feel like digging it out of my reenactment tote. P-1853 Enfield reproduction. I have to get back to the shore and get it re blued the old fashioned way, just have to get the time.
     

    Jaybeez

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    Patriot Picket
    May 30, 2006
    6,392
    Darlington MD

    Alright, quoting myself here.

    This is what appears to be an original Remington, manufactured in late 1864 according to the serials and inspector marks.

    The big problem is the thin and flaking nickel coating that was applied sometime in its history. It came from an older gentleman on the eastern shore, so i know why it was plated, everything steel rusts just from the salty air.

    The worst part of the nickel is that it is obscuring the Remington address on the barrel, which is a notoriously faint stamping to begin with.

    I found a historical restoration/plating shop in near baltimore, which can de-plate it, for what seems to be really cheap.

    Any opinions? I think i'd really like to see that barrel address.
     

    WeaponsCollector

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    Mar 30, 2009
    12,120
    Southern MD
    Alright, quoting myself here.

    This is what appears to be an original Remington, manufactured in late 1864 according to the serials and inspector marks.

    The big problem is the thin and flaking nickel coating that was applied sometime in its history. It came from an older gentleman on the eastern shore, so i know why it was plated, everything steel rusts just from the salty air.

    The worst part of the nickel is that it is obscuring the Remington address on the barrel, which is a notoriously faint stamping to begin with.

    I found a historical restoration/plating shop in near baltimore, which can de-plate it, for what seems to be really cheap.

    Any opinions? I think i'd really like to see that barrel address.

    Very nice. I think you should make sure removing the plating won't harm the gun in any way. Most collectors seem to prefer the original finish and patina and refinished guns can lose a lot of value.
     

    Jaybeez

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    Patriot Picket
    May 30, 2006
    6,392
    Darlington MD
    Very nice. I think you should make sure removing the plating won't harm the gun in any way. Most collectors seem to prefer the original finish and patina and refinished guns can lose a lot of value.

    Well, electro de-plating should just lift the nickel and copper flash coat right off, and not do anything to the base steel.

    I dont plan to refinish it, but with the barrel address filled in with nickel i'm not sure it has much collectors value.

    I'm not decided either way, but i've seen originals with almost no finish on them going for 3x+ what i paid for this. I dont plan on selling it.
     

    Port Fourchon

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    Feb 19, 2011
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    Port Fourchon, welcome, and that is a very nice piece you have there. Did you make it from a kit?

    It's one of the Indian made pieces. Supposedly 1720 French cavalry pistol design, but its basically a 20 gauge pistol.

    I bought it as a wall hanger, but I've taken it down to Myrtle Grove a couple times and it's fully functional. I've ordered a 10 gauge brass barreled blunderbuss. I'll post pics when it comes in.
     

    A. Wayne

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    May 28, 2011
    1,912
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    Underhammers were borne and bred here in America, while the sidelock was a European development that came over on the boat. It is the underhammer that is the true, original, American percussion system.

    In the early 1820s, Reverend Forsyth's percussion cap made its debut on this side of the pond and underhammer development in the United States of America began with the issuing of the very first firearms patent for a production gun to Fordyce Ruggles on November 24, 1826. This patent was for his underhammer pistol design which became the basis of many copy-cat designs of the following two decades. Fordyce and his brother, Adin, set up shop in Hardwick, Massachusetts in December of 1825.

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    Really nice!! What keeps the cap from falling off the nipple- (don't know much about black powder...)
     

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