3-22 Carry Introduced for 2016 Legislative Session!

dfens42 said:

Still need to get my class done so I can carry out of state, but it will be nice to no I can do so in public soon, legally.

I think the Governor will just sit on it...and it will de facto become law.

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Wasn't this vetoed last year?

moojersey said:

Wasn't this vetoed last year?

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Yes, and the only reason it wasn't overridden was because we ran out of time. Not this time!

MontaniSemperLiberi said:

Yes, and the only reason it wasn't overridden was because we ran out of time. Not this time!

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Awesome. Looking forward to seeing it go through.

The WVCDL Board of Directors understands that we cannot take credit for advances in reclaiming our Second Amendment rights. Because it is YOU that accomplishes these successes. The flip-side of this reality is that the burden for success lies on you as well.

The WVCDL is not an organization that begs for money. We ask for your activism, because THAT is what makes it happen.

And now is one of those times.

HB4145 has passed the House Judiciary Committee, and been advanced to the floor. Barring the unforseen, it will be on first reading tomorrow. Friday, it will be attacked by amendment after amendment attempting to water down the bill. Monday, it will go for the vote of the full House of Delegates.

This is where you come in. We need you, your family, your friends, your coworkers ALL to email and call your delegates, and ask them to pass HB4145 intact.

Find your delegate here.

If you cannot find your delegate, email me at kmorgan@wvcdl.org or call my phone (you may have to leave a message) at 304.421.3404, and I will personally help you find your representative.

Your calls are critical. Bloomberg is running robocalls, putting up billboards, running social media ads, and spending money everywhere in this state attempting to trample your right to self defense.

DO NOT LET BLOOMBERG WIN.

Make the calls and send the emails!

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http://myemail.constantcontact.com/WVCDL-ALERT-2-3-Action.html?soid=1102955222215&aid=rkR1EiqU3KM

Does this mean permitless carry for resident and non residents

rob b said:

Does this mean permitless carry for resident and non residents

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Right now, both residents and non-residents that are not prohibited persons can already open carry without a permit.

HB4145 as it currently stands will allow everyone that is not a prohibited person to conceal carry as well without a permit within WV.

Here is a current list of video and audio following HB4145 through the WV legislature:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoqVk1SqBulN6kjk-lHZ5EsfZQjdGwhgw

MontaniSemperLiberi said:

Right now, both residents and non-residents that are not prohibited persons can already open carry without a permit.

HB4145 as it currently stands will allow everyone that is not a prohibited person to conceal carry as well without a permit within WV.

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Let's hope this passes

I see on the 2nd reading that Delegate Skinner is throwing a bunch of anti gun amendments on the table, basically a lame attempt to make the underlying premise of the bill (Constitutional Carry) worthless.

Skinner is a gutless wonder from what I have seen.

I just sent WVCDL my $50 for my wife and I

press1280 said:

I see on the 2nd reading that Delegate Skinner is throwing a bunch of anti gun amendments on the table, basically a lame attempt to make the underlying premise of the bill (Constitutional Carry) worthless.

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Yes, I think that he introduced four amendments. Byrd has one, too, that is undermining. Third reading ought to be interesting. I heard today that we're about 1/4 of the way through the legislative session.

I received this update this morning from WVCDL

There is an old cliche. "Those who love sausage or the law, should watch neither being made." Cliche or not, it's quite true. And if you want to see why, by all means, show up at the Capitol at 11AM on Monday and watch the morning session of the house.

There are currently eleven amendments pending on this bill. I'll go with the good ones first.

The Good

Shott (R - Mercer): Delegate Shott's amendment simply fixes damage done by Tim Manchin (D - Marion). Tim Manchin split the bill in two in House Judiciary, splitting the enhanced penalties for gun crimes off as a separate bill. The strategy was to allow anti-gun representatives to vote for the enhanced penalties and avoid being called weak on crime, while allowing them to vote separately against constitutional carry. I suppose if your name in Manchin in WV, you're inherently anti-gun. It seems to run in the family. Maybe it's genetic.

Regardless, Shott's amendment fixes Manchin's damage.

Eldridge (D-Lincoln): Eldridge's amendment just adds an exemption to treat probation officers as law enforcement with regard to schools. It does not hurt the bill, and may make it a little stronger.

The Bad

Andrew Byrd (D-Kanawha): Delegate Byrd apparently believes that the rights of Americans can stop at West Virginia's borders. That a person from Virginia, Pennsylvania, Ohio, or any other state, should not be afforded the same constitutional protections as West Virginians. This is a blatant violation of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States. He would deny them their Second Amendment rights because they're from another state. Would he support a similar restriction, and ban NBC reporters from New York from broadcasting into our state? Would he support limiting NPR to stories written only by West Virginians? I think not. Because to him the First Amendment is probably sacred, but the Second is subject to his whim.

Then there's Skinner (D-Jefferson). He's inserting four goofy amendments designed to kill the bill. They do everything making sure teenagers with pocketknives with a blade longer than 3.5 inches have their lives ruined with a felony, to attempting to require insurance to carry a firearm. I personally think Skinner is in the wrong state. His views are much more at home somewhere like California or New York City.

The remaining amendments are redundant, and will be withdrawn for procedural reasons. The relevant ones have been discussed above.

So if you want to see the sausage made, I highly encourage you to show up and observe Monday. You'll hear every anti-gun argument ever made, and you'll hear some people really stand up for liberty.

Calls and Emails
We have to keep those calls and emails going. Every district is important, but if you live in the following counties, your calls and emails are particularly critical:

Greenbrier
Harrison
Jackson
Kanawha
Marion
Marshall
McDowell
Mercer
Morgan
Ohio
Ritchie
Summers
Upshur
Wayne

Call and email your delegate. Let them know to support HB4145 without any anti-gun amendments.
Lobby Day
February 15, 2016. Come stand with us in defense of your rights!

I look forward to seeing you all in the Capitol in Charleston!

We plan to start at 8AM. Arrive early to allow time to get through the security screening.

Keith Morgan

President,

HB4145: The hearings are in progress now (3rd Reading).

Constitutional Carry/Permitless Carry Bill passed House today 68-31. On to the Senate...

Governor Tomblin said on Twitter, so the story goes, that he will veto any measure that doesn't give the Police more protection (or one that takes away their protection). I paraphrased.
West Virginians need to be contacting their Senators and asking them to pass Constitutional Carry ASAP. The quicker the better, because we need to have enough time in the session to override the Governor's veto. You need to get on the phone and call now; also email.

To find your Senator, see link below (easy locator - provides email and phone no.):

http://www.legis.state.wv.us/Senate1/roster.cfm

Calling all West Virginians -- Today's Action Alert from WVCDL:

Resistance in Senate
It seems that Bloomberg's money might be having an effect in the Senate. We are encountering resistance to running the bill over "training concerns."

We all know that open carry is legal without training, and has not been a problem. We all know that Pennsylvanians carry in WV every day with no training requirement, and it's not a problem. We believe that most of the Senate knows this too, but might be caving to pressure from Bloomberg.

Your rights are in danger from New York money.

We need to you to make phone calls. We need you to let Senate leadership and the Senate Judiciary committee know that New York gun policy is not welcome here. We need you to let them know that this is an issue that influences your vote in November.

Call Senate President Bill Cole and let him know this issue will influence your vote for Governor:

(304) 357-7801

Call the chair of the Senate Judiciary, Charlie Trump and urge him to move this bill through his committee.

(304) 357-7980

Call the individual members of the Judiciary Committee and urge them to move the bill through the committee intact.

Ryan Ferns: (304) 357-7918
Bob Ashley: (304) 357-7970
Robert Beach: (304) 357-7919
Mitch Carmichael: (304) 357-7855
Sue Cline: (304) 357-7807
Ed Gaunch: (304) 357-7841
Robert Karnes: (304) 357-7906
Art Kirkendoll: (304) 357-7857
Mark Maynard: (304) 357-7808
Ronald Miller: (304) 357-7959
Corey Palumbo: (304) 357-7854
Mike Romano: (304) 357-7904
Herb Snyder: (304) 357-7957
Bob Williams: (304) 357-7995
Mike Woelfel: (304) 357-7956


Tomblin v. Cole
The Tomblin veto signal laid the gauntlet before Bill Cole. We are seeing that perhaps Tomblin will win that duel. It's imperative that all West Virginians call Bill Cole and let him know where we stand on our Second Amendment Rights.
Lobby Day
February 15, 2016. Come stand with us in defense of your rights!

Lobby day is a week away! This is our chance to stand for our own rights. And constitutional carry will still be an issue. If you want your voice to count, you have to make it count. The WVCDL cannot do this part for you. History has shown that it is your activism that recovers our liberty. This is your chance. Show up and stand for your rights!

We plan to start at 8AM. Arrive early to allow time to get through the security screening.

I'm in Harrison with the "Anti's"

Saw that it is scheduled for committee Monday. Fingers crossed.

Bill has gotten through Senate judiciary, on to the full Senate: http://www.wvgazettemail.com/article/20160217/GZ01/160219581

Let's get it passed and on to the Governor ASAP!