QAD ultrarest and Diamond outlaw.

Racer Doug14 · Aug 29, 2015

I put these two together last year. I have the hdx one. It doesn't seem to drop past 0° after I let the arrow fly. I think its bouncing up and toucking the fletching. That is causing a 3-4" shift to the left at 30yds. Does this sound right? Should I deal or put a whisker bisket on? I guess I could move my pins left. I love this rest but don't think its really made for this bow. I've adjusted all I can on the rest. I've looked at my friends that have Mathew's and they drop past 0° and stay down. Any suggestions? I know get a Mathew's

outrider58 · Aug 29, 2015

If you're thinking you're having contact somewhere, rub a little lipstick on the spots you suspect. Take some shots and examine your arrows and veins for transfer. I have a Mathews but, Diamonds are good bows. Only other advise i'll offer, if you make mods, always do it to the part and not the bow.

Racer Doug14 · Aug 29, 2015

I'll give it a shot. It is a nice bow. I've got it pretty quiet. String seems to wear quick.

Sticky · Aug 30, 2015

Check to be sure the timing of the QAD is setup correctly. In my experience, the rest needs to come to the full up position in the last inch (or even half inch) of the draw stroke. Many times it they are setup to come to full up a little too early and in fact, they are not dropping quickly enough to allow proper fletch clearance as the fletching passes over the rest.

Also check your nocking point location and be sure it is not below square, rather a little above square (1/8-3/16") when the rest is in the full upright position (not at the normal static upright position). Also check to be sure the marks are properly aligned when at full draw. This is pretty critical.

I have shot QADs on my hunting rigs for many years with no issues on several different bows.

Ifdot · Aug 30, 2015

I've been running the Diamond Liberty since it came out (04-05 I think) with the QAD. IMO the QAD if set up properly is the best rest on the market, and Diamond bows are extremely nice for the money.

Take it to a bow shop to get it set up right.

outrider58 · Aug 30, 2015

To be honest, I was having clearance problems with my QAD ultra on my Switchback. I switched to an NAP Apache DA. It has a wide 'whale tail' rest that gets out of the way. If your bow has a long dwell zone, the QAD can give problems not dropping(bad form). in my case, I think it was bouncing back up after it dropped. Either way, I was getting a little consistent wear on my right bottom vein, no matter what I did.

Racer Doug14 · Aug 30, 2015

Well I've adjusted the rest as much as I can to get it to lay/fall past 0°. Which is the way I read it should be. I love the rest. I'll keep it for the Mathews I know I'm gonna get. I think the whisker is the way to go on this bow. I still have to try moving the pins..if I can.

outrider58 · Aug 30, 2015

Racer Doug14 said:
Well I've adjusted the rest as much as I can to get it to lay/fall past 0°. Which is the way I read it should be. I love the rest. I'll keep it for the Mathews I know I'm gonna get. I think the whisker is the way to go on this bow. I still have to try moving the pins..if I can.

Good luck. I switched to a single pin about 20 years ago and never looked back. Shoots 20-70 yds and everywhere in between.

Racer Doug14 · Sep 5, 2015

Update..I've adjusted the whole sight left. Much better. Now to practice.

outrider58 · Sep 5, 2015

Racer Doug14 said:
Update..I've adjusted the whole sight left. Much better. Now to practice.

Be sure to check center shot and maybe paper shoot it(though not necessarily reliable to accurate performance, it will tell you your set-up is close). :thumbsup:

wilcam47 · Sep 8, 2015

Racer Doug14 said:
I put these two together last year. I have the hdx one. It doesn't seem to drop past 0° after I let the arrow fly. I think its bouncing up and toucking the fletching. That is causing a 3-4" shift to the left at 30yds. Does this sound right? Should I deal or put a whisker bisket on? I guess I could move my pins left. I love this rest but don't think its really made for this bow. I've adjusted all I can on the rest. I've looked at my friends that have Mathew's and they drop past 0° and stay down. Any suggestions? I know get a Mathew's

I had a QAD...changed to a ripcord and its 10x's quieter and more accurate. also make sure your fletching isnt hitting any string or part of the rest. If you notice marks on the rest or fletchings something isnt lined up right.

Racer Doug14 · Sep 16, 2015

Outrider58. I checked my center shot. It was off like 1mm. That was pointing left. So moved things back from before. Small improvement. More consistent.

outrider58 · Sep 16, 2015

Racer Doug14 said:
Outrider58. I checked my center shot. It was off like 1mm. That was pointing left. So moved things back from before. Small improvement. More consistent.

Once you get consistency, keep moving back, that will tell you where to fine tune it to. A 1/4 inch @ 20 yds will be 1'' or so @ 30yds. Move back to 40 and it might be 4''. That's how I fine tune my bow. I keep going out to 60 yds.

Racer Doug14 · Sep 25, 2015

Final update: well it still wouldn't group well. So I had been wanting to go to Marchio's sport hut in Hanover for a month. Mathew's ChillR has been calling me. Well basic tune up fixed that. Great guys there. I'm for sure I'll be back for that ChillR is so sweet.

Racer Doug14 · Oct 25, 2015

Final update 2: well I put the Hostage rest back on, along with everything else that was stock. Why? Because I got a 2015 Mathews ChillR. The QAD ultra will now be installed on that bow. The Outlaw did shoot better after I reinstalled it. I will be selling said bow to fund the chillR. I found a NIB on eBay for $695 and could pass it up.

outrider58 · Oct 25, 2015

Racer Doug14 said:
Final update 2: well I put the Hostage rest back on, along with everything else that was stock. Why? Because I got a 2015 Mathews ChillR. The QAD ultra will now be installed on that bow. The Outlaw did shoot better after I reinstalled it. I will be selling said bow to fund the chillR. I found a NIB on eBay for $695 and could pass it up.

Hey! Good find. Good hunting!

wilcam47 · Nov 15, 2015

Racer Doug14 said:
Final update 2: well I put the Hostage rest back on, along with everything else that was stock. Why? Because I got a 2015 Mathews ChillR. The QAD ultra will now be installed on that bow. The Outlaw did shoot better after I reinstalled it. I will be selling said bow to fund the chillR. I found a NIB on eBay for $695 and could pass it up.

Id say try Ripcord rest...they are quiet and work great on my Mathews.

Racer Doug14 · Nov 15, 2015

Thanks wilcam, I moved it over and it was tuned at Marchio's in Hanover.PA. I'm super happy with it on the ChillR. It sucked on the Outlaw,even after the tune at the same shop. If I had a friend that was using a Ripcord rest I might have gotten one. All of my friends use the QAD and never complain. Not to say its perfect. I spent like $120+ on it, its gonna go on. Again the idea was to return the outlaw to stock to sell,so the qad had to be used. BTW its killed my first buck.

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