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Inigoes · Apr 22, 2012

esqappellate said:
Is this the number that appears on the front of the cancelled check (rather than the back)? If so, there is small, handwritten number on my check that reads 81430, which is way different. The CJIS on my app is dated March 22 and the check cleared on March 23.

Yes.

There is speculation of that number being assigned to you for tracking purposes. A member who currently re-applied after a denial 8 years ago had a number of 69XXX

esqappellate · Apr 22, 2012

Inigoes said:
Yes.

There is speculation of that number being assigned to you for tracking purposes. A member who currently re-applied after a denial 8 years ago had a number of 69XXX

Very odd way to go about keeping track. Unless they keep a copy of the check before cashing it, I can't think of a reason to write a tracking number on the check itself. Is there any evidence that the number reflects a running total of apps received since 5-306 was enacted? I see from an earlier post in this thread that a 3/13 app was given a number of 81225. http://www.mdshooters.com/showpost.php?p=1543675&postcount=18

If they are counting apps, my 3/22 app would be only 205 apps later for nine days. Since the the MSP is returning all apps received after the stay, it would appear that the MSP has only gotten roughly between 800 - 1000 apps since the order came out that they are actually processing. Or is this all wet?

Sundazes · Apr 22, 2012

My check cleared on 3/21 and has NO hand written numbers on it that I can see from the scan. As I posted somewhere earlier, submitted 3/13. I have not heard a word from MSP other than them taking my money.
I wonder if the no number thing is relevant?

Inigoes · Apr 22, 2012

esqappellate said:
Very odd way to go about keeping track. Unless they keep a copy of the check before cashing it, I can't think of a reason to write a tracking number on the check itself. Is there any evidence that the number reflects a running total of apps received since 5-306 was enacted? I see from an earlier post in this thread that a 3/13 app was given a number of 81225. http://www.mdshooters.com/showpost.php?p=1543675&postcount=18

If they are counting apps, my 3/22 app would be only 205 apps later for nine days. Since the the MSP is returning all apps received after the stay, it would appear that the MSP has only gotten roughly between 800 - 1000 apps since the order came out that they are actually processing. Or is this all wet?

My check cashed 3/28, number 8150X. Same sequentially as the other two people who applied with me at the same time.

My guess is that it is an internal tracking number.

esqappellate · Apr 22, 2012

sundazes said:
My check cleared on 3/21 and has NO hand written numbers on it that I can see from the scan. As I posted somewhere earlier, submitted 3/13. I have not heard a word from MSP other than them taking my money.
I wonder if the no number thing is relevant?

I wonder too. Just trying to get a handle on the number of apps that MSP has actually received. If anyone has data on that, I would love to see it. It pertains to the State's "burden" argument in their stay papers.

c33m0n3y · Apr 22, 2012

OK, I finally got a scanned copy of my cashed check from my bank. The resolution is very poor, but the number looks like: 81062. My app was submitted in-person on 3/6 and the check cashed on 3/8, so it has to be one of the first they received post-ruling.

Inigoes · Apr 22, 2012

So we can ascertain approximately 500 applications were submitted post-Woollard, pre-stay?

Handwritten numbers vary from 810XX to 815XX...

BUFF7MM · Apr 22, 2012

c33m0n3y said:
OK, I finally got a scanned copy of my cashed check from my bank. The resolution is very poor, but the number looks like: 81062. My app was submitted in-person on 3/6 and the check cashed on 3/8, so it has to be one of the first they received post-ruling.

I trier to decipher my number and there's no way of telling the number, at least I can't make it out.

uscoastiee · Apr 22, 2012

Most Up to Date

Alright, I've made the spreadsheet even better.

I've added a formula to tell you what your 90 day deadline is, with holidays and weekends included. So it shows the true 90 business days, or at least it should.

I've also added a column to count the number of days between the date the app was received by MSP and the date the FTF was held. I know some of you had over the phone interviews, but I didn't record that accurately when I built the spreadsheet, so the over the phone folks aren't considered in the average.

The average number of days for the 20 people that have had their FTF interview, was 23 days.

The yellow highlighted boxes mean I had to estimate the date, needed the date to make the formulas work correctly.

Thanks for all of your input and praises, and PM's with info to add!! I'll be following the thread and FB to add more names to the list and make updates, as they are posted.

Sounds like MSI is putting together a form on their site. I think the idea is, whoever has submitted an application can fill the form out with all of their app information. The form will make tracking all of the apps/data easier for MSI.

Update: Post #546 has the most up to date spreadsheet.

Merlin · Apr 23, 2012

uscoastiee said:
Alright, I've made the spreadsheet even better.

I've added a formula to tell you what your 90 day deadline is, with holidays and weekends included. So it shows the true 90 business days, or at least it should.

I've also added a column to count the number of days between the date the app was received by MSP and the date the FTF was held. I know some of you had over the phone interviews, but I didn't record that accurately when I built the spreadsheet, so the over the phone folks aren't considered in the average.

The average number of days for the 20 people that have had their FTF interview, was 23 days.

The yellow highlighted boxes mean I had to estimate the date, needed the date to make the formulas work correctly.

Thanks for all of your input and praises, and PM's with info to add!! I'll be following the thread and FB to add more names to the list and make updates, as they are posted.

Sounds like MSI is putting together a form on their site. I think the idea is, whoever has submitted an application can fill the form out with all of their app information. The form will make tracking all of the apps/data easier for MSI.

Great job. Question; Does COMAR say 90 days, or 90 working days?

Merlin · Apr 23, 2012

uscoastiee said:
Alright, I've made the spreadsheet even better.

I've added a formula to tell you what your 90 day deadline is, with holidays and weekends included. So it shows the true 90 business days, or at least it should.

I've also added a column to count the number of days between the date the app was received by MSP and the date the FTF was held. I know some of you had over the phone interviews, but I didn't record that accurately when I built the spreadsheet, so the over the phone folks aren't considered in the average.

The average number of days for the 20 people that have had their FTF interview, was 23 days.

The yellow highlighted boxes mean I had to estimate the date, needed the date to make the formulas work correctly.

Thanks for all of your input and praises, and PM's with info to add!! I'll be following the thread and FB to add more names to the list and make updates, as they are posted.

Sounds like MSI is putting together a form on their site. I think the idea is, whoever has submitted an application can fill the form out with all of their app information. The form will make tracking all of the apps/data easier for MSI.

The reason some of the people can't open your file is that you need to save it in an older version of excel. Some people can't open your newer version.

charlesmd · Apr 23, 2012

Merlin said:
The reason some of the people can't open your file is that you need to save it in an older version of excel. Some people can't open your newer version.

it is very common these days office files uses the x extension, such as .docx, .xlsx, ect... If you have the older version, you can always download the MS Office Compatibility Pack for free

navycraig · Apr 23, 2012

uscoastiee said:
Alright, I've made the spreadsheet even better.

I've added a formula to tell you what your 90 day deadline is, with holidays and weekends included. So it shows the true 90 business days, or at least it should.

I've also added a column to count the number of days between the date the app was received by MSP and the date the FTF was held. I know some of you had over the phone interviews, but I didn't record that accurately when I built the spreadsheet, so the over the phone folks aren't considered in the average.

The average number of days for the 20 people that have had their FTF interview, was 23 days.

The yellow highlighted boxes mean I had to estimate the date, needed the date to make the formulas work correctly.

Thanks for all of your input and praises, and PM's with info to add!! I'll be following the thread and FB to add more names to the list and make updates, as they are posted.

Sounds like MSI is putting together a form on their site. I think the idea is, whoever has submitted an application can fill the form out with all of their app information. The form will make tracking all of the apps/data easier for MSI.

coastie,
Thanks for your hard work on this.
Not that it matters to me, but if you're striving for 100% accuracy, I'm in St. Mary's County, not AA.
navy

Mr. Ed · Apr 23, 2012

uscoastiee said:
Alright, I've made the spreadsheet even better.

Awesome job! Thanks for the hard work.

StillServing · Apr 23, 2012

I basically held a "class" for some guys at work using the info from MSI on "how to"fill out your app. I also setup a Livescan appt for myself and 3 other co-workers. So you can basically take my
Livescan date (3/22)
App mailed (3/22)
CJIS good boy ltr date (3/23) and
Check cashed date (3/28)

and add three more to it if your tracking numbers.
You can call them SS2 (Calvert), SS3 (St Mary's), and SS4 (St Mary's) if you want.
and none of them have heard anything either. I'll keep you updated on thier progress as well.

uscoastiee · Apr 23, 2012

It's me again!

Merlin said:
The reason some of the people can't open your file is that you need to save it in an older version of excel. Some people can't open your newer version.

Here is the link with directions on how to install Microsoft Office Compatibility Pack, it includes the file you'll need to download:
http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?displaylang=en&id=3

Sorry if it's a pain, but Excel 2010 gives me better formula tools then the older versions. And attempting to manage two different versions of the same file will get me all kind of confused!! I'm the product of a public school education, I'm a simple folk!!

navycraig said:
coastie,
Thanks for your hard work on this.
Not that it matters to me, but if you're striving for 100% accuracy, I'm in St. Mary's County, not AA.
navy

Navy, I guess I'll update your stuff, even though you're Navy!!

(Totally playing!! Thanks for your service!!)

I've updated everyone's info from the PM's and posts. I'll throw the most updated copy up once a week, so I'm not littering the thread with attachments. If anyone needs the file sooner, PM me your email address and I'll get it to you as quick as I can.

Please feel free to PM me other ideas of what would be good to have on the spreadsheet.

Merlin said:
Great job. Question; Does COMAR say 90 days, or 90 working days?

According to MSP's site (http://www.mdsp.org/Organization/SupportServicesBureau/LicensingDivision/HandgunPermit.aspx), it looks like 90 business days.
This is taken right off the website:
"ALLOW 90 BUSINESS DAYS FOR THE COMPLETION OF THE APPLICATION PROCESS."
If there is something that says otherwise, please let me know and I'll change it to 90 calendar days.

Take care, and Good luck!!

Mr H · Apr 23, 2012

uscoastiee said:
Please feel free to PM me other ideas of what would be good to have on the spreadsheet.

The first thing (purely cosmetic, but still helpful) would be to 'freeze panes' for the first row and column... just easier to keep track of what you're looking at.

Second (and just in the interest of thoroughness), my wife was contacted during my FTF.

Thanks again for putting this together.

uscoastiee · Apr 23, 2012

Freeze panes is done, but it's only letting me either freeze the first row or the first column, but not both at the same time.

I updated your wife's interview.

Thanks for the ideas!!

yellowsled · Apr 23, 2012

March, 07 - Livescan completed,
March, 08 - App in the mail
March, 09 - Package recieved by MSP
March, 12 - Check Cashed by MSP ( 81130 )
March, 15 - Letter from CJIS - No criminal history

4/23
Edit: added handwritten check #. No calls yet

PJDiesel · Apr 24, 2012

Folks, PLEASE MAKE SURE you are entering your data into the MSI tracker (and checking the boxes to allow them to share it)

Very important that it is entered here. Excellent work by uscoastiee, his form is awesome and helpful. The MSI information WILL be used, more than likely NOW, and also in the next MD General Assembly session.

http://marylandshallissue.org/msp-p...95c268-Woollard_Log4_24_2012&utm_medium=email

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