Is it legal to carry while at work in Maryland?

swinokur · Jun 23, 2014

I can't carry in MD, but when I got my first CCW perrmit, I purchased a 2 million dollar umbrella liability policy from my auto insurance company. It will only cover you in a legal shoot. If you're found at fault, you're on you own. It does provide an extra layer of financial liability protection, but that's it.

I assume this is the kind of insurance you werer referring to.

Runs about 24 dollars a month.

CypherPunk · Jun 23, 2014

One must satisfy each of the requirements under the law;

a handgun by a supervisory employee:

(i) in the course of employment;

(ii) within the confines of the business establishment in which the supervisory employee is employed; and

(iii) when so authorized by the owner or manager of the business establishment

Also, ask yourself;

1. How are those terms defined (ie supervisory employee, course of employment, confines...)?

2. If I use a firearm as a tool of last resort, will my employer risk liability by confirming he gave verbal permission?

traveller · Jun 23, 2014

Your employer is the one who needs to sort this out with his CGLI carrier. If you act as an employee on the clock it is your employer who will get sued. Also, MDs castle doctrine is fairly well defined for defense of your home, not quite as well for a business. That being said, the pakistani dunkin manager who offed a robber in the parking lot of his gas station in Laurel wasn't charged with anything.

Get a letter from the owner. Carry concealed. Dont blabber about it to your underlings.

redeemed.man · Jun 23, 2014

I would go a step further than most of the posts and suggest you get a letter from your employer authorizing you to obtain a MD Handgun Permit. Surely as a manager you can make deposits and conduct financial transactions for the business. I would advise against open carry in MD even within the confines of a business. If they would put in writing that you can carry at work why would they not assist you in getting a MD carry permit?

PeePeeMcGee · Jun 23, 2014

He said he would sponsor me getting a md ccp. Isnt it a long and drawn out process?? Can I get one even though Im a VA resident?

truknbear · Jun 23, 2014

boundlessdyad said:
I would go a step further than most of the posts and suggest you get a letter from your employer authorizing you to obtain a MD Handgun Permit. Surely as a manager you can make deposits and conduct financial transactions for the business. I would advise against open carry in MD even within the confines of a business. If they would put in writing that you can carry at work why would they not assist you in getting a MD carry permit?

boundlessdyad ... You bring up a lot of good points. That being said, the sticking point appears to be "cash" deposits. I own my own business (and avail myself to carry when I am at my place of business), but for the permit I have the task to prove that some arbitrary level of the deposits are cash. This is where I get a bit confused whether to apply or not, since a lot of payments are by check.

Straightshooter · Jun 23, 2014

There is no requirement for "cash" deposits. Only "deposits" into an active account.

redeemed.man · Jun 23, 2014

Straightshooter said:
There is no requirement for "cash" deposits. Only "deposits" into an active account.

As straightshooter said. It appears you have been misinformed. If you own a business you should apply.

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redeemed.man · Jun 23, 2014

PeePeeMcGee said:
He said he would sponsor me getting a md ccp. Isnt it a long and drawn out process?? Can I get one even though Im a VA resident?

It is 90 to 120 days. Yes a VA resident can apply.

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CypherPunk · Jun 23, 2014

Criminals are not known for their intelligence. They can't tell if your deposit envelope is $10 or $10,000.00, or if it's cash or check.

Im slightly familiar with this topic, and I am not aware of any dollar amount threshold.

Out of state applicants are generally treated the same as in-state except for fingerprints, interviews and restrictions.

Andras · Jun 23, 2014

It's legal for you to wear/carry the handgun on the business premises, but it is not legal for you to transport a handgun to the business location everyday. Only the owner can transport a handgun to the business.

(3) the carrying of a handgun on the person or in a vehicle while the person is transporting the handgun to or from the place of legal purchase or sale, or to or from a bona fide repair shop, or between bona fide residences of the person, or between the bona fide residence and place of business of the person, if the business is operated and owned substantially by the person if each handgun is unloaded and carried in an enclosed case or an enclosed holster;

...

(7) the wearing, carrying, or transporting of a handgun by a supervisory employee:

(i) in the course of employment;

(ii) within the confines of the business establishment in which the supervisory employee is employed; and

(iii) when so authorized by the owner or manager of the business establishment; or

truknbear · Jun 23, 2014

boundlessdyad said:
As straightshooter said. It appears you have been misinformed. If you own a business you should apply.

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Many thanks for your response. Was always under the impression that it had to involve cash. Perhaps it's time to apply.

CypherPunk · Jun 23, 2014

truknbear said:
Many thanks for your response. Was always under the impression that it had to involve cash. Perhaps it's time to apply.

It's not about if you own a business... It's about if you own a business, or are a corporate officer, and have a monetary cash flow and/or make deposits.

Although, it's also about the Presidential Democratic Primary, Bloomburg money, stare decisis, Snowden, Scherr, and the MSP Policy & Procedure Manual.

Stoveman · Jun 24, 2014

truknbear said:
Many thanks for your response. Was always under the impression that it had to involve cash. Perhaps it's time to apply.

You will be asked (at least I was at my interview) what amount of your deposits were cash.

Couldn't tell you if a truthful zero answer still gets you a permit.

kmittleman · Jun 24, 2014

I own a business and have thought about just bringing one to work everyday. If I were to do that, how do I have to transport the Gun to the car at night?

Inigoes · Jun 24, 2014

kmittleman said:
I own a business and have thought about just bringing one to work everyday. If I were to do that, how do I have to transport the Gun to the car at night?

Without a permit to carry:

A handgun would be unloaded, and in a enclosed holster or case. A backpack is not a case.

If a detachable magazine is used, just keep seperate from the firearm.

Rifle also unloaded and cased; if you are in rockville, leonardtown, or baltimore

Blackstar65 · Jun 24, 2014

If you are willing to answer: Where in Prince George's County do you work and what type of business is it tha makes you feel it may be the target of a robbery? I am not asking for the business name.

PeePeeMcGee · Jun 24, 2014

I work in a rough area of PG County and we have been broken into multiple times. Also, there have been multiple shootings within a 5-10mi radius of our office.

CypherPunk · Jun 24, 2014

Andras said:
It's legal for you to wear/carry the handgun on the business premises, but it is not legal for you to transport a handgun to the business location everyday. Only the owner can transport a handgun to the business.

(3) the carrying of a handgun on the person or in a vehicle while the person is transporting the handgun to or from the place of legal purchase or sale, or to or from a bona fide repair shop, or between bona fide residences of the person, or between the bona fide residence and place of business of the person, if the business is operated and owned substantially by the person if each handgun is unloaded and carried in an enclosed case or an enclosed holster;

...

(7) the wearing, carrying, or transporting of a handgun by a supervisory employee:

(i) in the course of employment;

(ii) within the confines of the business establishment in which the supervisory employee is employed; and

(iii) when so authorized by the owner or manager of the business establishment; or

Good point. All the more reason to become a MD Designated Collector for the purposes of an "informal display".

Biggfoot44 · Jun 24, 2014

Not that I'm particulary endorsing DC status for daily carry to work , but in the OP's case , is it possable for a nonresident to get DC status ?

Is it legal to carry while at work in Maryland?

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