Best States for Concealed Carry 2014

kharris · Sep 24, 2014

From Guns and Ammo, with a detailed explanation of how they were scored.
Best States for Concealed Carry 2014

Thought it interesting even though we are WAY DOWN near the bottom of the list.

Jimdick2949 · Sep 24, 2014

Thanks Good Article

traveller · Sep 24, 2014

An attempt to quantify something that cant be quantified. How can DE be all the way down there with MD if their 'may issue' is pretty much a 'shall issue'. What do I care as a resident how easy it is to get a nonresident permit ? Why bother abiut reciprocities if a couple of bucks and a fingerprint card gets you a UT or FL permit ?

ryan_j · Sep 24, 2014

I have a few beefs with the list.

RI should not be so high up. RI is very iffy may-issue. NJ is close to no-issue. It should be at the very bottom of the list.

NYC should be separate from NY state. All other CCW sites treat it differently.

alucard0822 · Sep 24, 2014

traveller said:
An attempt to quantify something that cant be quantified. How can DE be all the way down there with MD if their 'may issue' is pretty much a 'shall issue'. What do I care as a resident how easy it is to get a nonresident permit ? Why bother abiut reciprocities if a couple of bucks and a fingerprint card gets you a UT or FL permit ?

50 states, 50 different sets of laws, so lots of it is subjective. To get a PA permit takes $20, 3 days, and 1 page form, FL requires filling out a booklet passport photo, training, notarizing, fingerprints, $100+ and a couple months.

Multifaceted · Sep 24, 2014

alucard0822 said:
50 states, 50 different sets of laws, so lots of it is subjective. To get a PA permit takes $20, 3 days, and 1 page form, FL requires filling out a booklet passport photo, training, notarizing, fingerprints, $100+ and a couple months.

3 days for PA? The Sheriff's Dept. told me 2 weeks to process the application. Guess I'd better keep an eye out for the letter...

Inigoes · Sep 24, 2014

Multifaceted said:
3 days for PA? The Sheriff's Dept. told me 2 weeks to process the application. Guess I'd better keep an eye out for the letter...

Depends on the county.

It only took me 10 minutes :shrug:

Multifaceted · Sep 24, 2014

Inigoes said:
Depends on the county.

It only took me 10 minutes

Yeah, I've read that Adams Co. takes a little longer than most others. Luckily I am a patient man.

MikeTF · Sep 24, 2014

Glad to be living in VA!

kharris · Sep 24, 2014

No list is perfect and yes, a lot of it is subjective. That said, I think they did a decent job of describing how they tried to level the playing ground with their scores. Interesting reading, at least to me, if nothing else.

Z_Man · Sep 24, 2014

when visiting family in vermont.

step 1, bring firearm legally to vermont
step 2, once inside the state, load said firearm
step 3, insert into holster of choice (or pocket if you want... not that you should)

step 4, be an American!

BlackBart · Sep 24, 2014

Inigoes said:
Depends on the county.

It only took me 10 minutes

Does one need a Pa DL or will mail from address work?

G O B · Sep 24, 2014

Good Lord willing, I will have a TX resident CCW very soon.

Biggfoot44 · Sep 24, 2014

The bad ones as a group are bad , and the good ones as a group are good. But by its nature a ranking like this has to make arbitrary factorings.

While obviously Constitutional Carry is the theoretical goal , since the article is discussing Permits, then that's the topic.

Looking at only the direct fee paid to the issueing authority is only a small part. The net bottom line of required training , fees for prints or backgrounds , and anything else at all need to be combined.

And while Free is the constitutional goal too much weight is placed between inexpensive and very inexpensive. $25/yr is still doable, but that gets lumped with NYC as "above average".

May issue gets lumped together, when we know there are major gradations.

And the big one is restricted places. Makes a huge difference in day to day life , but is only a tiebreaker.

jaredm1 · Sep 24, 2014

Multifaceted said:
3 days for PA? The Sheriff's Dept. told me 2 weeks to process the application. Guess I'd better keep an eye out for the letter...

York County took 3 days...two of which where Saturday and Sunday, so that was pretty good I thought :thumbsup:

Multifaceted · Sep 24, 2014

jaredm1 said:
York County took 3 days...two of which where Saturday and Sunday, so that was pretty good I thought

I applied Monday, so whether I receive the approval letter tomorrow or next week, I don't know when the next chance I'll be able to get there since I work an hour away and they close at 4:30. Was already scheduled to leave early on Monday, so while on my way to the appointment, I dropped off the application.

GTOGUNNER · Sep 24, 2014

BlackBart said:
Does one need a Pa DL or will mail from address work?

They do require a Pa DL. Unless you are eligible for a non resident license.

Tyeraxus · Sep 24, 2014

Kind of a weird point system that doesn't work for some permit schemes. One that jumped out at me is Tennessee (because I'm somewhat familiar with the laws there). TN lost a lot of points in the ranking because they don't issue NR permits - but they recognize everybody's permits. Without exception. So there's no reason to issue a NR permit (GFSZA issues notwithstanding).

john_bud · Sep 24, 2014

Yeah, wi broke into the top at number 9.

The sphinx · Sep 24, 2014

Tyeraxus said:
Kind of a weird point system that doesn't work for some permit schemes. One that jumped out at me is Tennessee (because I'm somewhat familiar with the laws there). TN lost a lot of points in the ranking because they don't issue NR permits - but they recognize everybody's permits. Without exception. So there's no reason to issue a NR permit (GFSZA issues notwithstanding).

They issue Non resident permits if one has employment within the state. But as you said that makes 0 difference when they honor all permits

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