Rights for Felons?

gmhowell · Jul 19, 2012

mrjam2jab said:
Here's what the law doesn't say possess...it says "receive":

Look at the sentence right before your last bolded one. It says 'possess'.

That said, given a lack of definition of 'possess', Name Taken's advice is duly taken and subsequently ignored for lack of specificity or legal grounding. (BTW, none of this applies to me.)

yellowsled · Jul 19, 2012

Felons give up their rights when they commit a felony

mrjam2jab · Jul 19, 2012

gmhowell said:
Look at the sentence right before your last bolded one. It says 'possess'.

'possess in or affecting commerce'...I don't see that as a person using a firearm at a range. Guess...maybe renting one might fall under that?

gmhowell · Jul 19, 2012

mrjam2jab said:
'possess in or affecting commerce'...I don't see that as a person using a firearm at a range. Guess...maybe renting one might fall under that?

That's sorta the question I'm asking. :lol2:

It seems to, but I'm unsure.

gmhowell · Jul 19, 2012

yellowsled said:
Felons give up their rights when they commit a felony

Ownership, sure. I get that. I'm trying to find out if the ability (not right, please note) to rent or temporarily have physical control of a weapon falls under the same category as ownership.

Name Taken · Jul 20, 2012

There are no technicalities. Possession means to have in your possession it's not ownership.

There are also state laws that regulate and mimic the federal laws.

You cant hunt with a firearm, you cant own them, you cant go to the range, you cant have one in the vehicle, you just cant.

It's kind of simple. Not sure why we over think this stuff.

safecracker · Jul 20, 2012

Name Taken said:
There are no technicalities. Possession means to have in your possession it's not ownership.

There are also state laws that regulate and mimic the federal laws.

You cant hunt with a firearm, you cant own them, you cant go to the range, you cant have one in the vehicle, you just cant.

It's kind of simple. Not sure why we over think this stuff.

Even having firearms that are stored by another occupant of the same residence can be construed as "constructive possession" by said felon.

kagemusha · Jul 20, 2012

Tell that to G Gordon Liddy.

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safecracker · Jul 20, 2012

kagemusha said:
Tell that to G Gordon Liddy.

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Notice I said "can be" construed, rather than "is". Discretionary call on the part of the investigator.

Mooseman · Jul 20, 2012

Winterborn · Jul 24, 2012

I know that ranges (one in particular) have the ability to do a quick BG check on people who are honest (dumb?) enough to check "yes" on the form or ask a question relating to a previous conviction.

Whether they do it on all visitors......idk.

BlackBart · Jul 24, 2012

kagemusha said:
Tell that to G Gordon Liddy.

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Talk is cheap, what Liddy SAYS he has and what he actually has may or may not be 2 different things.

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