Finally got a collectors grade m1
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Polecat
R.I.P.
Very nice
paulstitz
Active Member
Is that a six digit serial number??????
thegoose
gun loving fanatic
Yes what does that signify?
BossmanPJ
Ultimate Member
Wow. Daddy wants.
paulstitz
Active Member
Very early production. Maybe 1941 or earlier. BIG WOW for a collector grade!!!
Extra Sweet
Looked it up January 1942, still WOW!!
Extra Sweet
Looked it up January 1942, still WOW!!
thegoose
gun loving fanatic
What does the 6 digit signify. And just so I know with it being a cmp. How much do you think it's worth. Just so I have some peace and mind.
paulstitz
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Augie
Ultimate Member
Not trying to be a downer here but what makes it a collectors grade? I don't see any cartouche on the stock, no lock bar sights, what is the barrel date? What are the drawing numbers on the parts? May just be the pics.
The CMP did have some WW2 Collector Grades years ago but the vast majority were like new 1950's Springfield Armory and H&R's returned from Greece.
Collector Grade denoted a rifle that was like new with all correct drawing numbers and cartouches stock, usually they came with a data sheet from the CMP.They literally looked unissued.
Looks like a nice Garand with an early serial number.
The CMP did have some WW2 Collector Grades years ago but the vast majority were like new 1950's Springfield Armory and H&R's returned from Greece.
Collector Grade denoted a rifle that was like new with all correct drawing numbers and cartouches stock, usually they came with a data sheet from the CMP.They literally looked unissued.
Looks like a nice Garand with an early serial number.
CasualObserver
Who Observes the Observer
Did you literally just buy that off of arms list? Just cking to make sure the pics weren't lifted from this site to be listed fraudulently as I see it on there right now (listed in the last few hours). I see it is for sale from Parkville... or is that you looking to flip it already?
Easytarget18
Señor Member
- Aug 19, 2011
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It signifies that it is very dangerous and you must get it out of your house right now for the sake of your family. Please pass your address to me and I will be right over to save you from this dangerous rifle.
thegoose
gun loving fanatic
I just listed it to see if I could get a few bites.
thegoose
gun loving fanatic
The guy I bought it from is a close friend who is more into class 3 but going through a divorce.
CasualObserver
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ah, got ya. Just cking. Some shady offers on armslist sometimes. Figured I would ck to be sure make sure there wasn't any funny business going on.
ken792
Ultimate Member
That's not a "Collector Grade" in the sense of the CMP (as in unissued condition, and correct as it left the factory). It should have lockbar sights and a blued rear sight cover.
However, that still looks like a very nice M1. The finish has aged to a beautiful green and the wood looks like it's in very nice shape. How's the bore?
However, that still looks like a very nice M1. The finish has aged to a beautiful green and the wood looks like it's in very nice shape. How's the bore?
Did it come with CMP paperwork?
It looks like a very nice Service Grade, with a nice early WWII serial number. It doesn't appear to be what a serious collector would call "collector grade", because it obviously has the improved rear sight that was upgraded during a post war refurbishment/rebuild. Most WWII Garands were upgraded or rebuilt at some point, and will exhibit a mix of parts from different manufacturers. To me, that's just fine, and I appreciate the layers of history found in an honest USGI Mixmaster.
There are a few quick easy things you can check. If you lock the bolt open, you can look in the gap where the right side of the barrel is exposed at the chamber. You will see something like
SA F6535448 2 55 A217B
SA means Springfield Armory. F6535448 is the barrel's drawing number , which is the same on every USGI Garand.
2 55 is the date the barrel was made, February 1955 in this case. A lot of Garands got new barrels after the Korean War.
If your barrel is original, the date would probably be from late 1941, no later than 1 42, when your receiver was made.
( A217B is the heat lot code for that batch of steel.)
You can also pull the trigger group and check the manufacturer and drawing number. The original, correct trigger group would be marked D28290-5-SA.
The bolt is even easier to check. A Springfield bolt from January, 1942 would be marked D28287-2SA.
Most Garands have a mix of parts from different time periods and different manufacturers. You may have some parts marked HRA, Harrington and Richardson Arms, or even WRA, Winchester Repeating Arms. Such a mix is normal, and to me adds a little interest, even if such a parts mix reduces value to collectors.
In any case, yours looks like a very nice Garand, with that distinctive greenish parkerizing, a color which apparently developed slowly over many years of use.
Feel free to post many more pictures. Lets see the whole rifle, and lets see a detail of the left side of the stock, below the rear sight.
Nice rifle!
It looks like a very nice Service Grade, with a nice early WWII serial number. It doesn't appear to be what a serious collector would call "collector grade", because it obviously has the improved rear sight that was upgraded during a post war refurbishment/rebuild. Most WWII Garands were upgraded or rebuilt at some point, and will exhibit a mix of parts from different manufacturers. To me, that's just fine, and I appreciate the layers of history found in an honest USGI Mixmaster.
There are a few quick easy things you can check. If you lock the bolt open, you can look in the gap where the right side of the barrel is exposed at the chamber. You will see something like
SA F6535448 2 55 A217B
SA means Springfield Armory. F6535448 is the barrel's drawing number , which is the same on every USGI Garand.
2 55 is the date the barrel was made, February 1955 in this case. A lot of Garands got new barrels after the Korean War.
If your barrel is original, the date would probably be from late 1941, no later than 1 42, when your receiver was made.
( A217B is the heat lot code for that batch of steel.)
You can also pull the trigger group and check the manufacturer and drawing number. The original, correct trigger group would be marked D28290-5-SA.
The bolt is even easier to check. A Springfield bolt from January, 1942 would be marked D28287-2SA.
Most Garands have a mix of parts from different time periods and different manufacturers. You may have some parts marked HRA, Harrington and Richardson Arms, or even WRA, Winchester Repeating Arms. Such a mix is normal, and to me adds a little interest, even if such a parts mix reduces value to collectors.
In any case, yours looks like a very nice Garand, with that distinctive greenish parkerizing, a color which apparently developed slowly over many years of use.
Feel free to post many more pictures. Lets see the whole rifle, and lets see a detail of the left side of the stock, below the rear sight.
Nice rifle!
stu929
M1 Addict
Sorry but not a collector grade.
Looks nice but collector grade it isn't.
Where did you get it?
Looks nice but collector grade it isn't.
Where did you get it?
No such thing as an ugly Garand unless it's badly Bubba'ed. I like the OP's, I like mine too!
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Neat old Garand you've got there, Bart! Some nice WWII parts, lock bar sights, milled trigger guard, "low hump" gas cylinder lock. Nice rebuild stock.
So what's the serial number range? Where are the rest of the photos?
Are you done thoroughly rubbing all the metal parts with a nice oily cloth yet?
So what's the serial number range? Where are the rest of the photos?
Are you done thoroughly rubbing all the metal parts with a nice oily cloth yet?
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