Face to face transfers

Dawson9a · Dec 10, 2014

I'm looking to trade some music gear for a DPMS LR-398 rifle and ammo

I contacted my FFL and was told I could just do a face to face transfer. What exactly is involved in that? What do we need to do?

Btw, this is the gun..

It's a dpms ar10 with magpul adj sniper stock. Larue grip , muzzle break,ZOS 10 x 50 scope BMG charging handle. Battle rail.

He said he paid over $2k last year. Any comments on this gun? Rough idea of value?

Thanks guys!
Dave

photoracer · Dec 11, 2014

Face to face usually means both going to the MSP for any kind of firearm with a waiting period. But I don't think that applies to ARs in not controlled calibers. If you can buy it over the counter and can take it with you it should not need any outside intervention.

rico903 · Dec 11, 2014

That's a cash and carry gun so a bill of sale is all you need. Can't help you on value.

daggo66 · Dec 11, 2014

photoracer said:
Face to face usually means both going to the MSP for any kind of firearm with a waiting period. But I don't think that applies to ARs in not controlled calibers. If you can buy it over the counter and can take it with you it should not need any outside intervention.

It does not apply to rifles and there are no "controlled calibers" in MD, yet.

rob-cubed · Dec 11, 2014

Face to face is just that. No MSP, no FFL, no paperwork required. A little taste of free America inside our intolerant state borders.

It's fairly common to write up a bill of sale citing the serial number, and some people like to do an ID check just to confirm the buyer is who they say they are... but both are completely at your discretion. Ask if they are a felon if you really want to cover yourself.

Hawkeye · Dec 11, 2014

rob-cubed said:
It's fairly common to write up a bill of sale citing the serial number, and some people like to do an ID check just to confirm the buyer is who they say they are... but both are completely at your discretion. Ask if they are a felon if you really want to cover yourself.

It's very common to do this, and IMO it's a good CYA move as well. I've sold guns to people on this forum before, and used this:

http://texasguntrader.com/billofsale.pdf

That way at least you can make the argument that the person you sold it to represented to you that they were legal, just in case.

A1Uni · Dec 11, 2014

If you really want to be complete, go here and check the buyer's background, at least as far as MD records.

The poor man's NICS.

http://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/inquiry/inquiry-index.jsp

PIRANHA · Dec 14, 2014

+1 on md case search it's a great site to use.

Redd Byrd · Dec 22, 2014

daggo66 said:
It does not apply to rifles and there are no "controlled calibers" in MD, yet.

Add to your statement: "as we talk" :sad20:

Vile Shadow · Dec 22, 2014

Folks, I think the OP here is the buyer.

As for the rifle, 2k may be a trifle high for that, unless that's about an $800 scope. It looks good though.

fidelity · Dec 23, 2014

Hawkeye said:
It's very common to do this, and IMO it's a good CYA move as well. I've sold guns to people on this forum before, and used this:

http://texasguntrader.com/billofsale.pdf

That way at least you can make the argument that the person you sold it to represented to you that they were legal, just in case.

Useful link/PDF, thanks. :thumbsup:

Hawkeye · Dec 23, 2014

No problem. I like that one, because (while it may not carry a crapton of legal weight) it uses the same questions from the 4473 and could at least be used to argue in court that you did your due diligence as a seller.

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