Confirmed: HQL Needed to Take Possession of Handgun After September 30

Mr H · Aug 8, 2013

There are some very few, very specific exceptions to having the HQL.

What is more, are the exceptions to the TRAINING component. Your question mixes the two.

Both of these have been discussed at length in other threads.

CJWalker · Aug 8, 2013

I was curious about that as well, but since I deal with FFL's which release on time I am no longer worried about it. I sent an email to MSP regarding necessity of the HQL for applications dating pre-October 1st. This is obviously not a definitive answer so take it with a grain of salt.

If I start the transfer process on a handgun (The paperwork is filed on August 01 of 2013 for example) and I am not able to take possession until November due to the backlog, will I be required to have a new handgun 'license' before taking the item home, or am I good to go without?

It's my understanding that you will be good.

chillman · Aug 8, 2013

Seems more like someone's opinion on the matter. Not a definitive statement. Regardless, we won't know until the time comes. I'll be one of the one of the people on the fence.

Verbotene · Aug 8, 2013

Awesome. This well-and-truly f*cks several people I know.

So... It's our fault all of you (our supreme leaders) are incompetent jackoffs. Great.

Abacab · Aug 8, 2013

I can only imagine the clusterfark at places like Continental Arms that have hundreds of guns waiting to get delivered. A lot of first time people are going to be mighty unhappy they will have to spend even more money to take their gun home.

Mr H · Aug 8, 2013

Abacab said:
I can only imagine the clusterfark at places like Continental Arms that have hundreds of guns waiting to get delivered. A lot of first time people are going to be mighty unhappy they will have to spend even more money to take their gun home.

I'd love for this to be the impetus for any dealers still not releasing on time to get their stock cleared.

Abacab · Aug 8, 2013

mr h said:
I'd love for this to be the impetus for any dealers still not releasing on time to get their stock cleared.

As good a reason as they are going to get. Though I can see some places viewing this as an opportunity to make more money by selling training classes, fingerprints and photographs.

Engine4 · Aug 8, 2013

mr h said:
Different subject. Getty's was about long guns.

I asked him specifically if about that & he said it was referring to all regulated guns.

scottp999 · Aug 8, 2013

Nice. So if you are not at a dealer willing to release on time, and your firearm is in limbo for 100-150 days, Oct. 1 will hit and it will take them what, 6-9 months to get the HQL system running right?

Mr H · Aug 8, 2013

The law creates a distinction (which is referenced in this Opinion).

As such, the answer cannot be the same.

Abacab · Aug 8, 2013

All of this was to be expected. All you had to do was read the bill. The worst part is the MSP was telling people they would be fine on pre-Oct 1 purchases. Oops.

MJD438 · Aug 8, 2013

chillman said:
Seems more like someone's opinion on the matter. Not a definitive statement. Regardless, we won't know until the time comes. I'll be one of the one of the people on the fence.

It is the written statement of a member of the AG's office to a sitting member of the GA, that qualifies it as an official opinion of the AG's office.

aab23c · Aug 8, 2013

Unf*ckingbelibvable!

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fabsroman · Aug 8, 2013

Can't say this was unexpected. However, the reference to assault weapons seems to appear that there will be no issue with post October 1, 2013 transfers/sales of assault weapons with a pre October 2, 2013 PO. Would love to get a clear position on that from the AG about whether the dealer/FFL can transfer/sell an assault weapon post October 1, 2013 if the customer has a pre October 2, 2013 PO for it.

Robert · Aug 8, 2013

aab23c said:
Unf*ckingbelibvable!

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You think this news is bad, wait until it takes 6 month to get our "HQL". :mad54:

spr1 · Aug 8, 2013

mr h said:
Different subject. Getty's was about long guns.

Crap you're right, I went back and read it again. I am probably fracked as my app went in around 5/11.

mxrider · Aug 8, 2013

Just as I elected. Posted it months ago and got jumped on. This has been their plan all along

AntiGun · Aug 8, 2013

This should not be a surprise if you read SB281. This outcome was known early on. The law never specified exemption for pre Oct 1st handguns as is clearly stated in the letter. I think too many confused soon to be banned AR's and the HQL. Different aspects of the same bill.

Stick with on time 8 day legally releasing dealers. I hope more will begin releasing on time even going so far as to have extended hours to allow more deliveries.

I will purchase after October if I'm able to financially but I don't want to wait even longer for something I've already paid for so 8 day only FFL's it shall remain.

aireyc · Aug 8, 2013

mxrider said:
Just as I elected. Posted it months ago and got jumped on. This has been their plan all along

I know, right?

It'll be interesting when someone has a "Not Disapproved" come back the first week of October with a NICS that expires the following week, but the customer won't be allowed to pick up the gun until November or later due to lack of HQL. Sounds like even more work for MSP if you ask me.

aireyc · Aug 8, 2013

AntiGun said:
This should not be a surprise if you read SB281. This outcome was known early on. The law never specified exemption for pre Oct 1st handguns as is clearly stated in the letter. I think too many confused soon to be banned AR's and the HQL. Different aspects of the same bill.

Stick with on time 8 day legally releasing dealers. I hope more will begin releasing on time even going so far as to have extended hours to allow more deliveries.

I will purchase after October if I'm able to financially but I don't want to wait even longer for something I've already paid for so 8 day only FFL's it shall remain.

Unfortunately there are a lot of individuals like myself who made purchases early May before 8-day release became the norm. While I expect to be able to pick up my guns September 4-13th, individuals who hit 2nd review on a May 10th or later purchase may be SOL. And if MSP slows down even more, I may be borderline SOL myself.

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