Reloading 223, powder, bullets and dies?

ashershapiro · Jan 31, 2015

Besides the powder, I would buy most reloading supplies online. Gunshows are ripoffs, especially in MD.

Pinecone · Feb 1, 2015

Traveler said:
You are right. H335 nasty. GIVE any of that nasty powder you like to me.

FTFY

Rockzilla · Feb 1, 2015

Powders:
WW-748
IMR-4895
BL(C)2
H-335
IMR-8208
Varget

Military if you can still find some as the are now more than commercial.
WCC-844, WCC-846 WCC-845 (currently avail $140 for 8#)

Bullets:
55gr. FMJ (bulk $79 1,000 free shipping) not pull down
62gr. FMJ (bulk $85 1,000 free shipping) not pull down
69gr, 77gr ( bought a bunch bulk few years ago)

Primers:
Depending on your needs
CCi
Federal
Wolf
and others...

Dies:
Redding
RCBS X-Dies, AR Dies, Reg Sets
Dillon Carbide Die Set (you still need to lube the cases)

Added recently:
CH4D die set with Titanium Nitride (TiN) Coating
on their die set, the whole die is done. Expander ball also.. It is $$$
but worth it. They even have this to say:
"If you ever manage to wear out your TiN coated die, we will replace it at NO CHARGE to you ! All we ask is
that you tell us how many rounds you've loaded with it."

Dave is a great guy, if you call afternoon or evening and he answers, be prepared to be on the phone for a
while, very knowledgeable person.

-Rock

Russ D · Feb 3, 2015

Where are you getting bullets for that price?

Weber · Feb 3, 2015

Probably from extreme bullets.

Rockzilla · Feb 3, 2015

Russ D said:
Where are you getting bullets for that price?

Try here:
http://www.shop.rmrbullets.com/

great guy to deal with no problems have purchased a few 1,000
from them. If you catch them from time to time they run promo's
that's when I "try" to stock up.

-Rock

Russ D · Feb 3, 2015

Rockzilla said:
Try here:
http://www.shop.rmrbullets.com/

great guy to deal with no problems have purchased a few 1,000
from them. If you catch them from time to time they run promo's
that's when I "try" to stock up.

-Rock

Thanks for the link. I just put in an order for some of those 62 grain Federal Fusion bullets. Can't beat the price if they shoot well.

Rockzilla · Feb 3, 2015

Russ D said:
Thanks for the link. I just put in an order for some of those 62 grain Federal Fusion bullets. Can't beat the price if they shoot well.

Your welcome, they do rather well, shot in a bolt gun, and the AR's
Pushed with 24.3grs. WCC-844 powder, CCI primers, LC cases.

Just a note , they run what they call 2nds once in a while, there is no real difference other than the shine, a nick (maybe), have randomly checked weights on them and no issues. As I said early they run promo's 5% off, some times 10%,that's when I load up. When winter hits I become a "cellar dweller" as the other half always says.

-Rock

stu929 · Feb 7, 2015

Rockzilla said:
Powders:
WW-748
IMR-4895
BL(C)2
H-335
IMR-8208
Varget

Military if you can still find some as the are now more than commercial.
WCC-844, WCC-846 WCC-845 (currently avail $140 for 8#)

Bullets:
55gr. FMJ (bulk $79 1,000 free shipping) not pull down
62gr. FMJ (bulk $85 1,000 free shipping) not pull down
69gr, 77gr ( bought a bunch bulk few years ago)

Primers:
Depending on your needs
CCi
Federal
Wolf
and others...

Dies:
Redding
RCBS X-Dies, AR Dies, Reg Sets
Dillon Carbide Die Set (you still need to lube the cases)

Added recently:
CH4D die set with Titanium Nitride (TiN) Coating
on their die set, the whole die is done. Expander ball also.. It is $$$
but worth it. They even have this to say:
"If you ever manage to wear out your TiN coated die, we will replace it at NO CHARGE to you ! All we ask is
that you tell us how many rounds you've loaded with it."

Dave is a great guy, if you call afternoon or evening and he answers, be prepared to be on the phone for a
while, very knowledgeable person.

-Rock

Where are you finding military powder still available?

Rockzilla · Feb 8, 2015

stu929 said:
Where are you finding military powder still available?

try here:
http://www.hi-techammo.com/

the inventory changes all the time with updates

have purchased 844, 846, Long Range match, 4895
have been looking at the 845 found loading data for it.

Last time I purchased powder from them was $89-$110 Range
Good people and stand behind what they sell.
If you are interested I would be willing to go in to acquire some
to split shipping and Hazmat.

-Rock

outrider58 · Feb 8, 2015

Rockzilla said:
Try here:
http://www.shop.rmrbullets.com/

great guy to deal with no problems have purchased a few 1,000
from them. If you catch them from time to time they run promo's
that's when I "try" to stock up.

-Rock

Thanks Rock. Just popped in and bought some .45 boolits :thumbsup:

Pinecone · Feb 8, 2015

$144 for 8 pounds of WC844 is not a great deal.

You can get real H335 for about $156 for 8 pounds, if you can wait for a backorder to be filled.

Some of their other prices are quite good, like CCI #41 primers.

Rockzilla · Feb 8, 2015

Pinecone said:
$144 for 8 pounds of WC844 is not a great deal.

You can get real H335 for about $156 for 8 pounds, if you can wait for a backorder to be filled.

Some of their other prices are quite good, like CCI #41 primers.

Exactly "if" you can wait. but if you need it "now".....

There is one other place that is cheaper but does no online
orders for powder they will not ship. I believe in Tenn. or Ky.
have it some where in my ole bookmarks.

Buy in bulk is the way to go some times..just trying to help out..

-Rock

Pinecone · Feb 9, 2015

Not saying to not buy it is you need SOMETHING.

But realizing that every lot of WC844 is a NEW powder for you, and you need to work up your loads again.

When it was under $100 for 8 pounds, versus $150 for H335, sure, but at $144, only if you NEED powder.

Rockzilla · Feb 9, 2015

Pinecone said:
Not saying to not buy it is you need SOMETHING.

But realizing that every lot of WC844 is a NEW powder for you, and you need to work up your loads again.

When it was under $100 for 8 pounds, versus $150 for H335, sure, but at $144, only if you NEED powder.

It's all good.

Was $80 for 8# when me got sum

Some people need / want things now, like yesterday, then some $ is no object.

Some others:
http://www.patsreloading.com/patsrel/prices.aspx
http://www.bullets.com
http://www.gibrass.com
http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com

of course these:
https://www.ch4d.com/
https://www.wideners.com/
http://www.midwayusa.com/category/reloading-supplies
http://www.natchezss.com/category.cfm?category=22
http://www.powdervalleyinc.com/

-Rock

pcfixer · Feb 13, 2015

I still have H322, enough to load 600 rounds. Very close to H335

Russ D · Feb 13, 2015

Just stopped by Steeles reloaders in Winchester VA. No Varget but plenty of H335/and Benchmark and a ton of other powders if anyone is up for a drive. Also the guy who works there couldnt be any more friendly.

Valley Guns 2 off 81 in WV has just about everything except Varget. I wanted to pick up some 748 and BLC-2 but I'm on the MD 5# limit.

pcfixer · Feb 14, 2015

ashershapiro said:
Besides the powder, I would buy most reloading supplies online. Gunshows are ripoffs, especially in MD.

Yep, I don't go to gunshows for that reason. Pay $9 to get in and get what?
I get alot of ammo, powder etc when going to my dad's in PA.
No Tax on clothing in PA too. Best of both worlds.

tdt91 · Feb 14, 2015

Rockzilla said:
Powders:
WW-748
IMR-4895
BL(C)2
H-335
IMR-8208
Varget

Military if you can still find some as the are now more than commercial.
WCC-844, WCC-846 WCC-845 (currently avail $140 for 8#)

Bullets:
55gr. FMJ (bulk $79 1,000 free shipping) not pull down
62gr. FMJ (bulk $85 1,000 free shipping) not pull down
69gr, 77gr ( bought a bunch bulk few years ago)

Primers:
Depending on your needs
CCi
Federal
Wolf
and others...

Dies:
Redding
RCBS X-Dies, AR Dies, Reg Sets
Dillon Carbide Die Set (you still need to lube the cases)

Added recently:
CH4D die set with Titanium Nitride (TiN) Coating
on their die set, the whole die is done. Expander ball also.. It is $$$
but worth it. They even have this to say:
"If you ever manage to wear out your TiN coated die, we will replace it at NO CHARGE to you ! All we ask is
that you tell us how many rounds you've loaded with it."

Dave is a great guy, if you call afternoon or evening and he answers, be prepared to be on the phone for a
while, very knowledgeable person.

-Rock

Does this die allow you not to lube like on a pistol with carbide?

Rockzilla · Feb 15, 2015

tdt91 said:
Does this die allow you not to lube like on a pistol with carbide?

From the site:
https://www.ch4d.com/services/TiN

Reduced use of lube..

This is what I have noticed in the use:
I don't need as much lube and can go a few with none, then
re-lube again. The amount of effort is reduced considerably.
Comparing to Dillon Carbide set in 5.56 the effort is greatly
reduced, also a little smoother. I am still trying different things
and different lubes to reduce case cleanup, also to speed up
the process.Imperial Case lube seems the best a little dab will
do. But still playing around have a few ammo cans full of brass
so trying to speed up the prep part.

Ordered this also:
http://www.harveydeprimer.com/

-Rock

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