Engage to sell so called "smart gun"

Sundazes · May 1, 2014

Wasn't there legislation in MD about smart guns? Something to the effect of if the technology becomes available, it becomes law? I can't remember if this passed several years ago or not. So please correct me if I am wrong.

But even if it did not, it's opening up a whole new can of worms in this state. Andy is free to sell whatever he wants, but I'm my opinion, this is just pure counter productive for our battle. And yes, I have purchased from them. I was/am a satisfied customer.

teratos · May 1, 2014

sundazes said:
Wasn't there legislation in MD about smart guns? Something to the effect of if the technology becomes available, it becomes law? I can't remember if this passed several years ago or not. So please correct me if I am wrong.

But even if it did not, it's opening up a whole new can of worms in this state. Andy is free to sell whatever he wants, but I'm my opinion, this is just pure counter productive for our battle. And yes, I have purchased from them. I was/am a satisfied customer.

There was a bill. I don't believe it passed.

Alan3413 · May 1, 2014

I think it's an interesting concept, but I don't see the utility of the smart gun. Why not just lock your gun away when it's out of your control? If the gun needs a wrist band to work, kids are just going to try grabbing the wristband. So you have to lock that up. See step 1.

SWO Daddy · May 1, 2014

I like Engage and won't hold this against them....but if this were a less well-liked dealer, people would be lined up with pitchforks at their door.

As we win more and more court cases, technology like this will be used to nibble around the edges of our rights until there's nothing left.

As an aside - this gun is still only available in .22lr, right? I don't think I would feel comfortable recommending a 10-shot 22 for self defense.

ryan_j · May 1, 2014

MD store to sell Armatix smart gun

Apologies if this has been posted before.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local...4efa48-d14d-11e3-937f-d3026234b51c_story.html

Mr H · May 1, 2014

So, who's actually going to buy these?

Anti-gunners?

swinokur · May 1, 2014

The market will decide if the politicians stay out of it. But if they get involved, it won't be because one gun shop in Rockville decided as a business decision to offer the product.

As stated, the technology is here anyway and rather than fight it, it should be seen as a possible way for our possible cash strapped dealers to survive.

Engage is free to sell it, Everyone is also free not to patronize them.

That's the way it works for now.

ETA-I think Electric cars are dumb, but if someone wants one, well.

SCARCQB · May 1, 2014

Im really interested in defending my home with an unproven pistol, chambered in 22lr that has a battery powered RF dependent locking mechanism.

I wish it would encode my DNA on each projectile and feature the best upgraded software to decide automatically not to shoot unless i have done my duty to retreat. If the IFF upgrade becomes available.. Im in for two..plus extra CLIPs

swinokur · May 1, 2014

dupe

http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=151389

SCARCQB · May 1, 2014

Mr H said:
So, who's actually going to buy these?

Anti-gunners?

Prius and smart car owners.

Allium · May 1, 2014

hope software isnt microsoft product - pull trigger and all you get is "loading Please wait"

HappyCamper · May 1, 2014

Mr H said:
So, who's actually going to buy these?

Anti-gunners?

Brian Frosh.

SWO Daddy · May 1, 2014

swinokur said:
The market will decide if the politicians stay out of it. But if they get involved, it won't be because one gun shop in Rockville decided as a business decision to offer the product.

I get what you're saying - but the flip side is that the title of the WaPo article itself is a slap at gun rights advocates ("Maryland dealer will defy gun rights advocates..."). Politics is already involved. This is already being used to undermine gun rights groups.

SWO Daddy · May 1, 2014

Allium said:
hope software isnt microsoft product - pull trigger and all you get is "loading Please wait"

Whole new meaning to "blue screen of death."

SCARCQB · May 1, 2014

Whats not to like?

It fires 22LR
Battery powered
RF signal dependent
latest and greatest in technology( unproven)
You still need a borelock
Comes with a Casio looking watch from the 1970s
Glow in the dark LED indicator
Goes well with a smart car or a prius
Water resistant
It is potentially smarter than the owners

Waiting on a range report.

Metaterra · May 1, 2014

SWO Daddy said:
I get what you're saying - but the flip side is that the title of the WaPo article itself is a slap at gun rights advocates ("Maryland dealer will defy gun rights advocates..."). Politics is already involved. This is already being used to undermine gun rights groups.

Typical Washington Post. They are really on a crusade about gun control. But here we are at the other end of their link, not feeling "defied" but supporting Engage.

Also I am enjoying the thought of Wapo readers clicking through to Engage's site expecting who knows what - a little Montgomery County gun boutique? Instead they find pictures of really nice AR-15s and AK-47s.

Metaterra · May 1, 2014

SCARCQB said:
Whats not to like?

It fires 22LR
Battery powered
RF signal dependent
latest and greatest in technology( unproven)
You still need a borelock
Comes with a Casio looking watch from the 1970s
Glow in the dark LED indicator
Goes well with a smart car or a prius
Water resistant
It is potentially smarter than the owners

Waiting on a range report.

Can you play Solitaire on it?

Name Taken · May 1, 2014

ericoak said:
The lobbyist has a much harder time when the technology has sold zero guns.

Really? I guess that's why MD was able to ban AR-15's the most popular rifle sold in America. To say it works one way is to say it has to work the other.

Maryland General Assembly could care less if one gun is sold or 5,000 are sold.

Do you think it's fair in a free market society (what is left of it) to not be able to obtain the product? Say I wanted that exact gun should no one offer it if it's on the market?

I'm not for the technology and I fear mechanical devices (which guns are) fail to much as it is let a lone when adding a computer to it. I however do not see the sky falling from this. Nor do I understand how offering it for sale is going to end the world.

I'm glad your are in a place where the residents feel they could have enough affect on a situation with their wallet. We did that clearly pre Oct 1 with an alarming amount of gun sales and it still didn't show the MGA that the law was foolish or the people didn't want the restrictions.

DC-W · May 1, 2014

Everyone did notice that they referenced one of our threads here, right?

basscat · May 1, 2014

Sounds like a good place to avoid.

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