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whitelightning777 · Mar 13, 2014

Is there any way to get one now after the ban? If it's NFA & SBR do the high capacity magazine and folding stock bans still apply?

bobthefisher · Mar 13, 2014

whitelightning777 said:
Is there any way to get one now after the ban? If it's NFA & SBR do the high capacity magazine and folding stock bans still apply?

The magazines will have to be sent out of state for you to acquire them, as they're obviously over 10rnds. The PPS-43C is on the MSP Handgun Roaster Board, and if made into an SBR would still meet the OAL and copycat requirements. The only evil feature being the folding stock. If anyone argues that the flat piece of metal in front the muzzle is a flash hider, they can pound sand. I've shot a PPS-43C at night and it in no way suppresses flash. It might control muzzle flip a bit (i.e. muzzle brake), but that's about it. Your good to go on all fronts with this firearm... except for the 42rnd mags.

FFBWMD · Mar 13, 2014

Yup your good to go, i've done a few of them. They are fun to shoot as well

smdub · Mar 13, 2014

bobthefisher said:
except for the 42rnd mags.

Where are these mythical 42rd mags you speak of? Mine only hold 35

BLACKTALON · Mar 13, 2014

smdub said:
Where are these mythical 42rd mags you speak of? Mine only hold 35

coffin mags

smdub · Mar 13, 2014

BLACKTALON said:
coffin mags

From what? I didn't know anything else fit. Do you have a link?

IMBLITZVT · Mar 13, 2014

Something tells me we are getting the Russian PPS43 mixed up with the Finnish KP44. The Russian in 7.62x25 and the Finnish in 9mm. Both had 70rd drums (Will not fit on PPS43 but will on the PPSH41). Both had stick mags around 30rds. The Finnish had a quad stack coffin mag that holds 50rds. However that coffin mag is in 9mm and is not any good on a PPS43. KP44 on top:

50rd Coffin mag (Fits Finnish KP44 and M31 SMGs in 9mm):

dapefley · Mar 13, 2014

That quad stack mag is EPIC!!

bobthefisher · Mar 13, 2014

Sorry my bad, the standard mags for the PPS-43C hold 35. Just checked.

...36 if you shove it in there

HappyCamper · Mar 13, 2014

They make the PPS-43C in 9mm now as well, but I don't think it's on the roster, yet.

IMBLITZVT · Mar 13, 2014

HappyCamper said:
They make the PPS-43C in 9mm now as well, but I don't think it's on the roster, yet.

Yeah but you are still stuck with the same mags. I don't know if they modify them but no coffins or drums.

BLACKTALON · Mar 13, 2014

yes sorry for the mix up

whitelightning777 · Mar 14, 2014

As a pistol, isn't it banned? My understanding is that any pistol in which the magazine doesn't enter inside of the pistol grip itself is banned. Would the folding stock have to be pinned open forever?

NateIU10 · Mar 14, 2014

whitelightning777 said:
As a pistol, isn't it banned? My understanding is that any pistol in which the magazine doesn't enter inside of the pistol grip itself is banned. Would the folding stock have to be pinned open forever?

That copycat test was removed before SB281 passed. There is no folding stock ban, it's a multiple features test.

IMBLITZVT · Mar 14, 2014

whitelightning777 said:
As a pistol, isn't it banned? My understanding is that any pistol in which the magazine doesn't enter inside of the pistol grip itself is banned. Would the folding stock have to be pinned open forever?

If you pin the stock open, its considered a SBR and so needs to be federal registered. No you have to keep it pinned closed. Then its not considered a stock and so a pistol. That whole pinned open thing is left over from the 94 AWB and even if its been gone for a decade now, its still confusing people!

ericoak · Apr 11, 2014

Note like you can find Coffin Mags for a decent price even if you wanted to.

IMBLITZVT · Apr 11, 2014

ericoak said:
Note like you can find Coffin Mags for a decent price even if you wanted to.

They have always been expensive... I never really saw them cheaper than about $50.

HappyCamper · Apr 11, 2014

Be nice if someone made a pistol brace for this Pistol, just like the ones for the AR / AK / Sig556.

Especially since AFT just ruled/clarified that you can legally fire the pistol with a pistol brace from the shoulder

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