Compete upper question

Dowtom · Feb 27, 2015

Sorry if this has been asked but search wasn't working on the mobile site.

If I purchase a lower it is considered regulated and I must wait my 7 days. But am I then able to purchase any lower as long as it is more than 16 inches. Or will I still be required to be am hbar/bull. If it must be an hbar can it be fluted.

I already have an hbar but the balance seems too don't heavy and if like a pencil barrel for quick movement.

Thanks in advance

Tom

DaemonAssassin · Feb 27, 2015

The barrel profile must be an HBAR. The days of getting pencil barrels in MD are long gone. Your wants are now not going to happen. Thank Frosh and DeMarco for that crap. You should have had the AR before 10/1/13.

mopar92 · Feb 27, 2015

What DA said but you can replicate the feel of a lightweight AR with primo components and a heavier stock to move the balance rearward.

Dowtom · Feb 27, 2015

Yeah i sort of figured that one. Guess I'll have to buy that land in WV sooner. Any suggestions for a stock that would move the weight rearward. Trying to get into 3gun

dblas · Feb 27, 2015

Fluted HBAR or fluted bull barrel will also be fine.

DaemonAssassin · Feb 27, 2015

Dowtom said:
Yeah i sort of figured that one. Guess I'll have to buy that land in WV sooner. Any suggestions for a stock that would move the weight rearward. Trying to get into 3gun

A Magpul ACS with lead shot in the storage compartments? I have a UBR on my precision rifle.

outrider58 · Feb 28, 2015

Magpul PRS is also a heavier stock for counter balancing but, lends its self more to bench guns.

gungate · Feb 28, 2015

Can he modify his original HBAR with a lightweight upper if it was purchased before 10/1?

outrider58 · Feb 28, 2015

gungate said:
Can he modify his original HBAR with a lightweight upper if it was purchased before 10/1?

I believe he could, if that were the case but, I don't think it is.

Dowtom · Feb 28, 2015

It is not unfortunatly

finally got ahead of bills and missed the deadline by 3 months.

pilotguy299 · Feb 28, 2015

gungate said:
Can he modify his original HBAR with a lightweight upper if it was purchased before 10/1?

I believe that it had to have been in the now banned condition before 10/01/2013 to be legal.

Pinecone · Feb 28, 2015

That is safe way.

MSP has not made up its mind about a pre-ban lower with a pre-ban upper, made after 10/1/13.

I would think that they would apply the same interpretation to taking an HBAR and putting a pre-ban upper on it, after the ban.

Of course, if you owned the upper BEFORE 10/1/13, you probably assembled the rifle into a now banned configuration. As it only takes a minute to do so. I did with my HBAR.

mopar92 · Feb 28, 2015

Dowtom said:
Yeah i sort of figured that one. Guess I'll have to buy that land in WV sooner. Any suggestions for a stock that would move the weight rearward. Trying to get into 3gun

$$$$ Magpul UBR, PRS and Ergo F93

$ Cav Arms A1 with a sandbag tossed in the storage compartment.

Dowtom · Mar 2, 2015

How about this scenario. If I purchase the upper barreled in anything besides 556/223 can the barrel be a different profile? However I'm assuming though that 762x39 and 300blk are both hbars because they're 30 cal?

Dowtom · Mar 3, 2015

ANYONE?

outrider58 · Mar 3, 2015

Dowtom said:
How about this scenario. If I purchase the upper barreled in anything besides 556/223 can the barrel be a different profile? However I'm assuming though that 762x39 and 300blk are both hbars because they're 30 cal?

Correct. Not sure if a 30cal. bbl is made with a scary profile but if one did, I'm sure it would be a no no.

Boom Boom · Mar 3, 2015

If the upper is not .223/5.56, then any barrel profile is GTG. Any .30 caliber upper is GTG. NFA still applies where relevant.

Not directed at you but worth mentioning. Don't do something foolish like buy a non-HBAR .223/5.56 upper with a 22LR kit installed and think it's somehow legal on a post-10/1/13 lower.

Boom Boom · Mar 3, 2015

outrider58 said:
Not sure if a 30cal. bbl is made with a scary profile but if one did, I'm sure it would be a no no.

.30 caliber AR-type rifles are cash and carry. Barrel profile doesn't matter.

Dowtom · Mar 3, 2015

Gotcha. I would never think to deceive our great state with a conversion kit on an illegal barrel lol.

But I think I may buy a 22 upper the more I think about it. Can never have too many. 22 rifles.

Tomcat · Mar 3, 2015

Looks like this might be a good place for me to ask about this.

I've got a Colt 6721 HBAR. I've been doing some searching and it looks like I can purchase a complete upper in 7.62x39 and put it on the lower. Basically just 2 pins and the proper mag? Is it really that simple or am I overlooking something. I'll admit I'm a new B with the AR platform

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